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I did Compiler Explorer's monthly accounts, and for the first time in ages we only broke even. Usually we run at a small surplus (which I save) & we have a year contingency saved up.

If you want to support us:

* Buy stuff: https://shop.compiler-explorer.com/
* Patron/GH: "Other" menu on CE

Would appreciate a repost - thanks so much! :)

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@mattgodbolt
Is this due to an increase in cost or a decrease in donations/Sponsors?

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@drawnto mostly a slow creep in AWS bills, a couple major sponsorships coming to an end, and a slightly leaner Patreon month for idiomatic reasons. I'll be chatting to our big sponsors and AWS too

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@mattgodbolt I can't say no to an ABI mug ;)
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@mattgodbolt
Thank you for your transparency. In this day and age it could also be some AI agents stumbling into blowing up some public utilities bill. Glad to hear that is not it

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@drawnto right! I try to put out a sort of transparency report once a year or so. I'll try and get an updated one, I think the last one I did was a while ago. It doesn't seem to be LLM load though

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@mattgodbolt

This may be a stupid question, and forgive me if it is, but is it feasible to run the compiler on the client side in WebAssembly?

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@argv_minus_one it's not a stupid question, but it's tricky to cross compiler thousands of compilers to wasm. It's not "free", there's a ton of runtime stuff that's needed too. Many older compilers probably will need patching. And each compiler is about 1-5GB in size, so, switching between compilers would mean a long download too. So, it's probably not worth it!

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@mattgodbolt I know it's totally unrelated, but if costs are rising up and donations are not piling up, would be possible to suggest self-hosting through e.g. docker compose, at least for smaller tasks?

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@madduci CE can always be self hosted! All the compilers and installations are open source and available for download, and the code is open too. I think there's some third party docker build that put it together but we don't do that as it's 6TB of compilers and so on

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@mattgodbolt I made the mistake of introducing my coworker to CE.
Now every time I make a MR, he comments how I should write something differently so it uses less assembly instructions.
(I'm in embedded/firmware development)
D:

*jk*

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@mattgodbolt perhaps if you wouldn’t use the planet-burning eso-fascist plagiarism machine…

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@mattgodbolt maybe you could "stress" the point, so your bill can be lowered a little bit

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@mattgodbolt
are you feeling the pain of using LLMs with rising prices?

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@ami I'm not seeing LLM based price increases, affecting CE anyway. We don't see significant load and our use of AI is minimal compared to our AWS bill (which we will work on!)

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@mattgodbolt the shipping costs are very very reasonable to EU. i'd buy an ABI shirt or two if those would be available. is that technically infeasible or is there a chance?

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@stefanct I can see if that's possible. I had to order a half dozen mugs before I worked out the layout/font/readability so I'd probably need the same on the t shirt

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@madduci oh!? I mean, how? I don't mind it at all we try and make it as easy as possible! But obviously marketing not my strong point

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@mattgodbolt mention the availability of a docker compose file in the repo? Or also through a small banner in CE?

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@madduci we don't have a docker compose (there may be a third party one around), but I take your point! Thanks

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