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Wondering what FORTRAN, Excel, @ProjectJupyter and @kedro have in common? Come to my talk "Data Science in production: Crossing the chasm" and you'll find out šŸ˜‰

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@ubuntu Just left a very entertaining talk on , a successor written in Rust that compiles documents instantly, has nicer syntax, produces accessible PDFs, emits comprehensible error messages... A beauty!

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Enjoying the second day of . So far: a keynote from the creators of @frameworkcomputer , a talk on Windows Subsystem for Linux, and one that I was very much looking forward to: "Marketing for Open Source: How, Where, & Why" by Michael Tunnell @TuxDigital

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@astrojuanlu @ubuntu Very cool! I did not know abut this. Is there something similar to Beamer for this?
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 1 year ago

@astrojuanlu @ubuntu Yes, there is polylux. For me this is immediate switch because I’ve never learned LaTeX properly anyhow (and I think it is quite terrible experience to write tbh).

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@jarkko @ubuntu In fact @andreask presented his lightning talk yesterday with slides made with !

_Edit: Not really, see reply below. Author of the talk was Laurenz MƤdje_

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@jarkko @astrojuanlu @ubuntu yeah as someone who has worked a lot with , I fully endorse learning something else that's easier to use if you're just getting into it.

The catch is, of course, that LaTeX has so many packages that enable a lot of advanced functionality, I suppose it's probably still the better choice for anything complex, at least for now.

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@astrojuanlu @jarkko @ubuntu Note that I am merely the principal author of Polylux, I did not give this talk and I am not affiliated with Typst.

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@andreask @jarkko @ubuntu Ughhh how embarrasing, yesterday's talk was by Laurenz MƤdje, thanks for the correction šŸ™šŸ¼ editing the post

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@diazona @astrojuanlu @ubuntu

I see a lot of sweet spots for this. E.g. for an open source developer like me Beamer is not a choice because I love LaTeX but more like that I get text based presentation, which I can put to a VCS. Having more friendly tool is level up from this.

Another field where I see potential are manuals, in a form that would come more close of great manuals of the past boxed software. Specifically I could see this being an awesome tool for creating user manuals for open source tools.
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@diazona @astrojuanlu @ubuntu I mean, to put it bigger context:

  • There’s LaTeX for scientists.
  • There’s Markdown for web (such as this comment).
  • I hate to say this but at the moment there’s only applications like Microsoft Word for engineers and technical writers (unless you count, ugh, troff that is still used (unfortunately) for man pages).

So yeah super happy to see something like this.

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@jarkko @astrojuanlu @ubuntu Wait, I'm confused... Beamer is certainly an option for open-source developers. I've used it to create presentations about software a few times (though for work, I never had the opportunity to present in connection with open source). And as a package it works fine with Git. Am I missing something?

Of course it does come with all the complexity of learning LaTeX, so there is certainly room for a better option, but it's a fine option for developers who happen to know LaTeX already.

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@jarkko @astrojuanlu @ubuntu There are things like Restructured Text though...

I mean, in my experience it seems like technical documentation makes pretty good use of various markup formats already, and I have not personally seen much of a niche there for something like to fill. But I'm not the most involved in writing that documentation, I only do it for projects I'm involved in.

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@diazona @astrojuanlu @ubuntu

True, I do use ReStructured Text in kernel, forgot that one :-)

I'm thinking maybe something like Intel SDM or some other ISA reference with more layout than kernel documentation. E.g. RISC-V ISA manuals would be good fit. Anyway, future will tell...
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 1 year ago

@diazona @astrojuanlu @ubuntu and there is a lot of deeply technical books that would not categorize as science books, like everything put out by my favorite publisher @nostarch. this has strong chances to grow huge from sort of disruptive angles. yet another field where this could be a greeat weapon of choice would be reports published by government departments such as Statistics Finland or VTT.

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