#fediring seemed like a nice idea but why is there so much unnecessary gatekeeping?

“After that, simply send a plaintext email”

Simply accept email from everyone and stop with this nonsense.

Plain text email is like only having a website over HTTP.. in 2023 it is absolutely gatekeeping to expect of anyone.

@mattl don't most clients default to plaintext for new messages or do they do HTML?

@mattl Requiring text/plain is bad. Sending only text/html is also bad. Both are violations of Postel's Law.

@jef I don’t believe anyone like gmail is sending only HTML email. I think a subset of nerds have decided HTML email in any form is horrible and something they can gatekeep.

@cinebox most people use gmail dot com

@mattl @jef HTML email is nearly 30 years old. I would like to be surprised people still hold a grudge (and/or use tools that still hold a grudge) but sadly I am not surprised.

@mattl preach it brother

@mattl I think HTML email is horrible and never read it, which is how I know that some places do send HTML-only.

@jef I don’t love it but I don’t think any user-sent email is HTML only. Certainly not from the likes of gmail, yahoo, outlook dot coms

@mattl @jef (HTML email is so old that, when it was released, I was naive enough to believe people would not hold grudges about technology for 25+ years.)

@luis_in_brief @jef we’ve spent collectively a century or more dealing with “that guy” sadly.

@luis_in_brief @mattl Similarly, I'm still angry that LKML has a 20+ year grudge against attachments.

MIME would be perfect for sending patches to LKML. It's resistant to formatting corruption and every mail client has supported it since the 90s. But no, they'd rather have a whole soup n*zi system in place to make it as hard as possible for the average person to contribute.

@foo @mattl That’s @monsieuricon ‘s music!

@foo @luis_in_brief @mattl I don't disagree with you, but I do have a good logical answer to why it's this way -- LKML is about code review, not just code submission, and reviewing code in attachments is not straightforward.