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Lorenzo Stoakes
ljs
I think a lot of 'gatekeeping' criticisms towards the kernel are entirely without merit (certain people seem to treat daring to subject their contributions to code review as gatekeeping).
However the kind of shit shown in the pic here I stumbled across on reddit absolutely is.
DO NOT listen to people who tell you you can't do things. I hate to see people being told 'this is not for you'.
A big part of my motivation in kernel stuff is that many would say it's not for me. Losers like that will sit there telling you what you can't do while you go do it. Let them rot.
The wonder of linux is that you're limited only by your effort, intelligent and talent (yes there's some politics but honestly vastly less than many projects/certainly proprietary software).
So fuck anybody who tells you you can't.
Also it's totally fine to wonder what laptop might work better for linux kernel dev (i.e. lots of cores actually for compilation), this was literally the search that I was performing... and err I've contributed a decent number of patches so yeah.
I guess TL;DR: guys who don't understand anything posting opinions on the internet, hardly a surprise.
However the kind of shit shown in the pic here I stumbled across on reddit absolutely is.
DO NOT listen to people who tell you you can't do things. I hate to see people being told 'this is not for you'.
A big part of my motivation in kernel stuff is that many would say it's not for me. Losers like that will sit there telling you what you can't do while you go do it. Let them rot.
The wonder of linux is that you're limited only by your effort, intelligent and talent (yes there's some politics but honestly vastly less than many projects/certainly proprietary software).
So fuck anybody who tells you you can't.
Also it's totally fine to wonder what laptop might work better for linux kernel dev (i.e. lots of cores actually for compilation), this was literally the search that I was performing... and err I've contributed a decent number of patches so yeah.
I guess TL;DR: guys who don't understand anything posting opinions on the internet, hardly a surprise.
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medium rare bird
migratory@jorts.horse@ljs yeah, seems like it's from a point of ignorance re: how many builds will be incremental touching only a handful of files. the kernel does not require a powerful machine to have a decent dev workflow. the projects that do are web browsers
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@migratory it's the 'not for you go away' aspect that I dislike rather than the discussion around perf.
Yes you can develop on anything, but it's helpful to have more cores.
Yes obviously incremental builds make things easier, but with a header file-based programming language very easy to trigger big rebuilds and the link time is large.
The answer is sort of nuanced putting the gatekeeping aspect to one side - I prefer a smaller more portable laptop where I don't expect ideal compilation times as I use desktop for more serious stuff but I want something for portability, but people's needs vary.
Yes you can develop on anything, but it's helpful to have more cores.
Yes obviously incremental builds make things easier, but with a header file-based programming language very easy to trigger big rebuilds and the link time is large.
The answer is sort of nuanced putting the gatekeeping aspect to one side - I prefer a smaller more portable laptop where I don't expect ideal compilation times as I use desktop for more serious stuff but I want something for portability, but people's needs vary.
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Marcos Paulo de Souza
mpdesouza@floss.social@ljs I'm curious: How many patches the "guru" has sent? If they know the complexity of kernel development enough to start giving advice on the web maybe they were able to contribute at least a little :)
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@mpdesouza I checked the one with the real name and it's yeah guess what? It's none :)
I strongly suspect the guy with the pseudonym has also done... yeah none
EDIT: I redacted the names to be a good netizen + to respect privacy but one name was obviously real the other some concoction of letters + numbers
I strongly suspect the guy with the pseudonym has also done... yeah none
EDIT: I redacted the names to be a good netizen + to respect privacy but one name was obviously real the other some concoction of letters + numbers
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