leaked slack ux design principles:
- finding if someone sent you a message is really not important
- loading must be slow so that you can show splash screen with idiot jokes
- it must be possible to attach a picture of a goat everywhere

@lkundrak yes but have you seen animated emojis?

@lkundrak note that uploading your own goat pictures may take from 5 secs to several weeks. Please use company-approved goat pictures for now

@oleksandr oh i've once been invited to the coreos channel
and please make no mistake, i respect those people very much
but what a fucking cultural shock
because they seemed to have degraded to a hieroglyphic writing system
with moving hieroglyphs
i swear to god our brains are just wired differently

@lkundrak You never used Teams, right? 😂

@theron29 no

@lkundrak don't even try, for the love of all. Get weechat and wee-slack ASAP. The Slack UI was never usable, but in the latest redesign they made it completely intolerable.

@lkundrak BTW, slack-desktop v4.38.115 just segfaults on maximising the window. All you need to know about enterprise software quality.

@oleksandr @lkundrak Why would you even install some Electron shit if you can suffer a tiny bit less by running it in an actual browser?

@liskin @oleksandr perhaps the lady at the counter in the grocery store pressured him
by repeatedly asking if he `got an app'

@lkundrak @liskin Last time this was discussed there were some issues with Slack working in Firefox, and I haven't checked since then. Also, TBH, I want neither Electron nor a browser tab, I want a proper native Qt6 application.

@liskin @lkundrak známky sbíráte?

@liskin @lkundrak In some stores, BTW, like Tesco, it's impossible to shop w/o being identified via their app or at least a card, otherwise the prices are just 2× higher. I wonder how come this practice is legal.

@oleksandr @lkundrak @liskin it does work in firefox
except voice calls, which is a convenient reason not to participate in any

@liskin @lkundrak so these things work? Asking for a, think it was @ptesarik

@oleksandr @lkundrak yeah you're not getting a Qt6 app because they're fucking morons. But you don't need to resort to choosing between a tab and Electron, either - both Firefox and Chrome will happily create an app-looking/behaving window for the website.

@vbabka @ptesarik @lkundrak wee-slack is a marvel of engineering, I've been using it ever since Slack dropped the native IRC gateway and been extremely happy with it.

@lkundrak @liskin SSB/PWA support in FF on desktop no longer exists

@liskin @lkundrak Thanks to @vbabka for mentioning me.

@oleksandr @lkundrak Oh my fucking God. WTF are Mozilla people smoking? Like seriously, are their brains completely gone from crack or what?

(apologies for misinforming you then)

@lkundrak @liskin Mozilla management seems to be a bunch of very strange and suspicious people who do not care much about Firefox at all. Otherwise, we wouldn't be where we are now.

@liskin @lkundrak ever worked with MS Teams, sir?

@hny @lkundrak No, I've never been so broke to accept a job that requires me to use crap like that.

@liskin @lkundrak