Do I know anyone here who daily drives #LinuxMobile / #postmarketOS on their main/only phone and would be willing to share their experience?

I’m wanting to go to Linux mobile and am wondering how it feels to actually daily drive it

How well does whatsapp under waydroid works? (Oh, also: do you get notifications?) What about discord?

Any cool native apps? How good is Tuba on mobile? Any telegram clients?

Basically I only use my phone for Mastodon, a telegram group and eventually discord or youtube so nothing too complex.
Also bank apps but that’s safer if you keep it on a separate phone at home anyway so I’d just to that.

@luana Using a #Librem 5 with #phosh (on #Debian based distros) since several years. All the common bits (phone calls, SMS, mobile data, GPS positioning, proximity and orientations sensors, leds, haptic feedback, cameras, …) etc work.

The app ecosystem (as mentioned in this thread) is growing and has nice options already. Camera usage has some quirks (userspace / app limitations) but there's 3A (thanks @pavel) so "point and shoot".

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@luana @pavel Battery live is either short or (with suspend) the phone won't yet wake up on e.g. incoming Matrix/XMPP messages (but wakes up fine on e.g. incoming calls / SMS).

We have lots of things to make the user experience nicer on the phosh side and some gaps like e.g. Android Auto, Cellbroadcast support or nice BT integration but things make steady progress.

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@debacle @agx @pavel @luana this is really good news!

@luana I'm daily driving a #postmarketOS phone, a OnePlus 6 with #phosh
By disabling standby and running Calls on each boot, I find incoming call stability to be very good, I haven't lost any calls lately.
The #LinuxMobile Apps experience is great! you find very useful user-considerate ones, like Pipeline, Podcasts, Feeds, Komikku, Decibel, Tuba, Fractal...
You can use web-apps as Android apps replacement with GNOME Web.
I still carry around a second iPhone for camera, bank app and navigation.

@debacle @luana @pavel Having organicMaps will be nice! 👍 There's also puremaps with osm scout server. Both are available as flatpaks (not as debs yet).

@luana@tech.lgbt Generally you'll only get notifications when the phone is on (not suspended) to receive them. I've heard of people working with wakeup on timer to work around that. That's basically what Android does, too, AFAIK, but less power efficient because each application needs to reconnect etc. because there's no unified notification server.

I use native applications (mostly distro packages) only, works for what I need (browser, XMPP, Matrix, calls/SMS, audio). Text files for notes. Syncthing to share files with my other systems. I still need a good calendar sync that works without a central server.

@debacle @agx @luana I tend to use foxtrotgps, and then just tell it to download/cache map bitmaps...

@agx @luana Yup, camera is a lot of fun. BTW someone should test Megapixels on Librem 5 -- it should work now, and has support for multiple devices.

@debacle @agx @luana @pavel osmin is quite good for offline navigation and in #pmos repos.

Mepo is interesting as map viewer for its scripting capabilities.

@agx
Short battery life is a really sore point. I wonder how Android, being Linux based gets so long battery life
I still haven't dared using it daily because it often get hot. Plus I use Telegram a lot and I need to use Italian's CIE and SPID which support only Android and iOS.
@luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @agx @luana @pavel afaik with SoCs heavily optimized for phones (but only available in huge numbers), rather than more generic SoCs that are available for producers that only build “few” devices.

@valhalla
I suspect that another cause is having the "modem" outside the main SoC, but I'm no expert
@agx @luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @luana @pavel At least for the L5 I can say there's lots of potential for improvements (leveraging the M4 core, suspend more, freeze background processes, …). There's limitations compared to the heavily mobile optimized SoCs of today but it should be possible to get into an o.k. state "out of the box".

Regarding CIE (e.g. cie-middleware) so looks like yet another a project for someone to pick up.

@agx
At #Librem you must feel like David against Goliath.
Regarding CIE, as long we can run Android apk, I would be fine and happy …
@luana @pavel

@paoloredaelli @luana @pavel 😃

Waydroid does run apk but I assume you need access to a smart card reader? Haven't tried that.