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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 4 months ago

Interactive external commands is also one reason that made me return back to regular #vim, in addition to working remotes out of the box and the fact that I use only a few plugins, which carry out somewhat trivial tasks where e.g. performance is not a factor.

Interactive external commands is a useful feature from time to time because it allows to leverage privileges for an external command.

For example, this will result an error in #neovim instead of a password prompt: :r !sudo ls.

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@jarkko
I'm skeptical that plugins will perform better in compared to . For example, plugins like Fugitive written in legacy VIML will likely have similar speeds in both editors. Only plugins optimized for can achieve faster speeds, but I've only come across a handful of those, which, by the way, won't be compatible with Vim.

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@seve_py If I had to care about performance of plugins in vim in the first place, it would lead me to a conclusion that I'm using wrong editor in the first place :-) I only care functionality and performance of the stuff that is built in.

I mean why be the king of lua dependency hell, when you could have just as well installed vscode and zed, and call it a day. It being TUI interface does not help that much anymore of the editor being ubiquitous at that point.

For me people who pick vscode feel more like common sense people than 90% of neovim users. I get the pragmatic reasoning for that even tho I use an archaic editor.
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@seve_py It's really a wider disease in modern software. Everything tries to be a platform that does nothing :-) I'd like to see more software where developers pick and make choices, and less like a generic software development platform.
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@seve_py modern open source = sdks and forks. Great, that is what I call moving forward.
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@seve_py I bought Sublime Text exactly because I wanted a GUI editor for meetings instead of trying to make vim look like such (instead of vscode because I prefer paying with money over paying with soul) :-) Does the job for that purpose.
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