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patricus@mstdn.social

patricus

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@affine poor child, has to learn C

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mcc@mastodon.social

mcc

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@patricus @affine it's important we not hide the tragedies of the past from children

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patricus@mstdn.social

patricus

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@mcc @affine well, yes and no, they should know that C and C++ exist, but nothing more than this.

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mcc@mastodon.social

mcc

Reply to @patricus@mstdn.social

@patricus @affine *thinks* how do you feel about teaching children FORTRAN

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lambdageek@mastodon.social

lambdageek

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@mcc @patricus @affine ok but actually F93 or later might be an ok teaching language at the elementary/middle school level (basically for the same reasons as Pascal used to be)

Kids love BLAS, right?

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ErikUden@mastodon.de

Erik Uden 🍑

Reply to @affine@yourwalls.today

@affine C is War

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bsmaalders@mas.to

bsmaalders

Reply to @affine@yourwalls.today

@affine Great cartoon!

Aside: one can legitimately argue that most of the complaints heard here have more to do with the C library functions rather than the language itself. After spending the last 6 years writing in C++ (& Python), I miss using a language whose behavior I know w/o reference to documentation.

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jbowen@mast.hpc.social

Jason Bowen

Reply to @lambdageek@mastodon.social

@lambdageek @mcc @patricus @affine
Mine can't get enough BLAS. I have to read them procedures from GotoBLAS or they refuse to sleep.

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jbowen@mast.hpc.social

Jason Bowen

Reply to @patricus@mstdn.social

@patricus @mcc @affine
I feel like exposing kids to C++ is a step too far.

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geert@society.oftrolls.com

Geert Uytterhoeven

Reply to @mcc@mastodon.social

@mcc @patricus @affine As soon as they have mastered upper-case characters, they can start learning FORTRAN.

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patricus@mstdn.social

patricus

Reply to @geert@society.oftrolls.com

@geert @mcc @affine is fortran stil useful?
and, could you give me an example program?

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geert@society.oftrolls.com

Geert Uytterhoeven

Reply to @patricus@mstdn.social

@patricus @mcc @affine I guess it is, although personally I haven't touched FORTRAN since last century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran has examples. For real-world examples (probably in Fortran 90), I'd like to defer you to the experts...

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pavel

Pavel Machek

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@geert @patricus @mcc @affine Still useful, I heard. More limited language -> easier to optimize than C.
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