@drewdevault We cannot nationalise everything. We need quality standards for managers. Those standards can include profit, but must include plenty of more important factors such as quality of products, impact on environment, well-being of employees.
We’re not about to abolish capitalism and we’re not about to introduce communism. We need to find a middle ground, extremes have proven to be bad or unrealistic anytime somebody tried.

@drewdevault Nationalising is important for a nation’s core needs. I don’t think that most of Boing’s activity falls under that definition. It’s not energy, water, food, emergency communication or the like what they’re doing.
Breaking it up is a better. A small part may be subject to nationalisation, but not all.
I fully agree on not bailing them out. They’re a fucking capitalist company, so they need to play by the rules of the game they choose.

@drewdevault “… one … is not …” is the kind of argument I fear. It sets a precedent. It’s saying “we got principles but we can ignore them when convenient”. Like, “some animals are more equal than others”.

@drewdevault It’s setting a precedent that is not needed. Other companies will follow. Why not do it correctly right away?

@drewdevault @pa "Socialism" only works on paper. People tried, and it resulted in murders and famine.

@pavel @drewdevault I guess that would be communism, not socialism?

@pavel @drewdevault @pa Socialism literally works in practice, it is used in basically every country even the US. Remember publicly funded education falls under socialism as do basically any public service. Even the freeways are socialism.

@pa @drewdevault Communism is supposed to be "socialism without money". Noone ever got that far, people start dying sooner than that.