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Jarkko Sakkinen
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Just random note (and I think I stick to my mac for the time being e.g. because RME soundcards are proprietary as hell unfortunately).
One could make these quite easily a wine focused distribution for audio with wineasio for wiring into pipewire.
I.e. not Bitwig or other (available for) Linux DAW and yabridge but full-on everything inside wine. E.g. FL Studio performs better wine and is more stable than in Windows. For audio, wine is better Windows than current Windows. Even things like iLok (ugh) work these days without glitches (you need gnutls 32-bit for this, I found it by accident).
It has many other benefits:
1. One can snapshot the production environment because Windows is just a folder. This is useful for e.g. testing new plugins and making perfect clean ups after.
2. One can have multiple environments.
Making this an app ("manager' alike or something, this what Linux Steam is really) or a spin of distribution would be interesting idea. Pipewire was from get go a game changer in audio, it is actually just as a stack better than CoreAudio, but now that it has stabilized it is diamond.
Also, all RT just went to mainline, not sure if there is something that could improve from plain PREEMPT. And the biggest performance glitch was WaitForMultipleObjects (Win32 API), which was recently (either 6.10 or 6.11) recently fixed by having a driver and device just for this call, which bypasses nasty wineserver completely.
Personally I stick mac in audio (because I have RME BabyFace Pro FS) but Wine (with WineASIO) would actually be my option number 2, not because it is a "Linux way" but more like it has better user experience than Windows.
Just writing this down so that won't be forgotten :-)
#linux #audio #wine #note #musicproduction
One could make these quite easily a wine focused distribution for audio with wineasio for wiring into pipewire.
I.e. not Bitwig or other (available for) Linux DAW and yabridge but full-on everything inside wine. E.g. FL Studio performs better wine and is more stable than in Windows. For audio, wine is better Windows than current Windows. Even things like iLok (ugh) work these days without glitches (you need gnutls 32-bit for this, I found it by accident).
It has many other benefits:
1. One can snapshot the production environment because Windows is just a folder. This is useful for e.g. testing new plugins and making perfect clean ups after.
2. One can have multiple environments.
Making this an app ("manager' alike or something, this what Linux Steam is really) or a spin of distribution would be interesting idea. Pipewire was from get go a game changer in audio, it is actually just as a stack better than CoreAudio, but now that it has stabilized it is diamond.
Also, all RT just went to mainline, not sure if there is something that could improve from plain PREEMPT. And the biggest performance glitch was WaitForMultipleObjects (Win32 API), which was recently (either 6.10 or 6.11) recently fixed by having a driver and device just for this call, which bypasses nasty wineserver completely.
Personally I stick mac in audio (because I have RME BabyFace Pro FS) but Wine (with WineASIO) would actually be my option number 2, not because it is a "Linux way" but more like it has better user experience than Windows.
Just writing this down so that won't be forgotten :-)
#linux #audio #wine #note #musicproduction
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Another great option is "Bitwig and get all U-he plugins". I'm not fan of cross-over (e.g. yabridge and Windows VSTs). Rather have less plugins but all live in the same universum. Just feels more clean to me. Getting all U-he plugins is anyway a good idea because they are the reference for any other software synths. I don't use really any other these days.
With pure Linux and PipeWire you can do all that CoreAudio plus Loopback can do: https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback/.
With pure Linux and PipeWire you can do all that CoreAudio plus Loopback can do: https://rogueamoeba.com/loopback/.
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Right and for recording hardware, Linux might be these days best possible environment given how you can guarantee that there is no irrelevant tasks etc. running. MacOS is as crap as Windows for doing anything latency sensitive. MacOS was cool last time about 2010 or something :-) Reaper and Bitwig is superbly good for these types of audio tasks i.e. record clips from hardware and craft from them something interesting :-)
Apple hardware has one advantage that has not been surpassed by any other laptop so far that I've ever tried: the almost zero noise 3,5" audio port if you play any of your music ever anywhere. If you want to destroy your ears, try connecting ThinkPad audio port to a real stage sound system (applies to any other laptop).
Apple hardware has one advantage that has not been surpassed by any other laptop so far that I've ever tried: the almost zero noise 3,5" audio port if you play any of your music ever anywhere. If you want to destroy your ears, try connecting ThinkPad audio port to a real stage sound system (applies to any other laptop).
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