Peter Wemm
karinjiri@soc.crashed.org
STOP IT!
I am particularly glaring at you, github! I don't know if you did it first, but so many other people copied this blight on humanity from you.
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@karinjiri You can usually hover and it will show you the actual datetime. Works for GitHub, mastodon, reddit, etc.
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It's far worse than just github etc though. It's a plague all over the place now, and it's bugging me right now in iOS. There's no mouse-over tooltip there to get details.
Why do I care at this particular moment? I just had an mDNS freakout and I want to know if the homepods just auto-updated. All that they say is it was "recent". Does that correspond to the 1:18am hiccup? I don't think so, but its impossible to tell.
If it was the homepods then that's fine, I can stop looking. If not, then something else has broken, perhaps the cross-vlan mDNS repeaters. Or unifi manager updates.
Anyway, I still think it's mostly github's fault for popularizing this. Is there somebody else I'm missing?
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@karinjiri Reddit had it in 2005, years before GitHub was even a thing.
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Sami Lehtinen
sl@pleroma.envs.net
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However, if the same daemon emits "1024 MB" instead, I need to download the full source code and study it enough to be sure what is what.
Obviously this mess applies also to hardware.
It is a cardinal sin to break backwards compatibility just plain randomly. Should be dead obvious for any legit engineer that instead it would have been better to invent a new unit for base-1000 sizes, instead of corrupting base-1024 sizes.
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Steve Purcell
sanityinc@hachyderm.io@karinjiri I think Ruby on Rails did it first, or at least widely popularised it as a default, and GitHub always was (still is?) built with Rails.
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Magnus Ahltorp
ahltorp@mastodon.nu@sanityinc @karinjiri Ruby on Rails is from 2004. That’s really recent when it comes to discussion forums and systems deriving from those forums.
The Swedish discussion forum type KOM, in use from 1978 (older than Usenet) and still in use today, uses relative time in most of its implementations. It’s however somewhat unclear if it did this from the beginning or not. All archives are dumped much later than the posts, so they would show full date anyway.
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Steve Purcell
sanityinc@hachyderm.io@ahltorp @karinjiri Interesting - thanks for sharing! I wonder if the Scandinavian heritage influenced DHH's choice in that regard. I don't remember seeing support for that style baked into any earlier framework.
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