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Jarkko Sakkinen
jarkko
JetBrains Fleet. Not into GUI editors but have heard so much good about what they do from many people that I know who do amazing stuff so definitely will install this free editor on side:
https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/
https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/
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Johan Paul
kypeli@mastodon.kypeli.com
@jarkko Would be interesting to hear how Fleet compares to VSCode that currently seems to be the da facto free code editor these days. How is Fleet differentiating from it basically.
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Jarkko Sakkinen
jarkko
@kypeli I fucking (sorry) hate VSCode :D And people who have liked it that I know are not GUI-first people. So yeah I'm curious to use this for some work tasks :-)
I've used vim (not the neo one) forever and now that I pay my bills with Rust I survive its type system with Helix, which I actually really like for that purpose.
I've looked at CLIon and RustRover from JetBrains from time to time but paying without seeing if the flow works for me is a no-go. I have no idea but who knows if this would lead even to buying one of them (if they make sense to me over Fleet in features or something). Could be wrong that for me it seems that JetBrain has niche on developers like me who don't use GUI normally at all :-) [based merely on a friend query in open source, game industry etc.]
I've used vim (not the neo one) forever and now that I pay my bills with Rust I survive its type system with Helix, which I actually really like for that purpose.
I've looked at CLIon and RustRover from JetBrains from time to time but paying without seeing if the flow works for me is a no-go. I have no idea but who knows if this would lead even to buying one of them (if they make sense to me over Fleet in features or something). Could be wrong that for me it seems that JetBrain has niche on developers like me who don't use GUI normally at all :-) [based merely on a friend query in open source, game industry etc.]
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@kypeli One example came to mind!
These days eBPF is heavily trending, and I use bpftrace actually quite a lot actually to catch latency and performance problems. E.g. very recently (few days ago) I noticed performance issues on how TPM driver pools random data from the chip so that it has bad effects to latency and power consumption. I was not looking for this exact issue so it blew me up.
To further dig hidden or masked features of the code perhaps JetBrains could be used to integrate better with eBPF and e.g. do flame graph and perhaps some interactive graphs based on that. It has a plugin ecosystem, so who knows if not today maybe some day this is possible :-) This would be one example where it would make sense for me to pay for it (and also scale to uprobes for user space tracing).
This type of stuff just cannot be done in terminal and would like top content for otherwise boring Teams/Meet/Zoom nonsense ;-) And yeah like best possible tool to communicate insight to management.
These days eBPF is heavily trending, and I use bpftrace actually quite a lot actually to catch latency and performance problems. E.g. very recently (few days ago) I noticed performance issues on how TPM driver pools random data from the chip so that it has bad effects to latency and power consumption. I was not looking for this exact issue so it blew me up.
To further dig hidden or masked features of the code perhaps JetBrains could be used to integrate better with eBPF and e.g. do flame graph and perhaps some interactive graphs based on that. It has a plugin ecosystem, so who knows if not today maybe some day this is possible :-) This would be one example where it would make sense for me to pay for it (and also scale to uprobes for user space tracing).
This type of stuff just cannot be done in terminal and would like top content for otherwise boring Teams/Meet/Zoom nonsense ;-) And yeah like best possible tool to communicate insight to management.
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Johan Paul
kypeli@mastodon.kypeli.com@jarkko Well, I can't argue with that if coming from a clean Vim š I haven't used Fleet much at all and my assumptions have been that it is like VSCode but missing a ton of features still. That might have changed though. Do let us know what you think.
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Toni Aittoniemi
gimulnautti@mastodon.green@jarkko Iām a jetbrains nerd, been one for a decade at least. Use CLion and Idea at work.
#jetbrains
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Jarkko Sakkinen
jarkko
@gimulnautti yeah nice that there is free option because for me the risk of not using it if I pay is significant :-)
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Jarkko Sakkinen
jarkko
@gimulnautti naah, not my cup of tea tbh :-) i get tho why someone would want to use this, not bad either
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@gimulnautti I saw while ago recent interview from John Carmack where he explained why he actually needs IDE and I fully grabbed that.
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