One thing is sure: not travelling to US during this term for any reason. Too much chaos and mayhem. Should be listed high-risk countries to travel into.

@jarkko Seasonal promotion: fly to the USA — get a free ticket to Columbia.

@jarkko Same thoughts.

@jarkko Anxiously waiting to see what the Linux foundation is going to do. Not very sure about having the kernel development steered from a country where the administration might easily make software export controlled.

@laho not making a statement or expressing an opinion so I'll pass :-) It is just smart thing to do since it is not wise to travel instable countries.

And I don't know about US legislation on non-profit organizations so would not make sense to speculate anyhow.

I only express my opinion in social media, if I can go to a court hearing and fully disclose the facts.

Just for the sake of example, in the case of FOSDEM I was vocal because:

1. Organizers had all information available on Jack Dorsey when they accepted the talk.
2. No new evidence has been disclosed that would compromise Jack Dorsey after that.

For example, it has been a known fact that Jack sold his shares to Elon Musk for the last couple of years already. Even if I hated Jack by gut I still would think that it was wrong doing because I defend integrity over my personal feelings about a person.

Objectively you can draw only two possible scenarios from this:

1. FOSDEM organizers are incompetent as fuck.
2. FOSDEM organizers have no integrity.

Both are quite unpleasant outcomes, but either of them must be 100% true, and I can't help it.

However, if I said anything about non-profit organizations in US, exports and related legislation that would be based purely on a belief system. It also comes down to the question of integrity: if I cross that line I will loose it.

At least when it comes to bigger possible issues. Everybody has their ups and downs, and talks nonsense sometimes. That's just life.

@jarkko

Fair, I guess. Although the foundation does get benefits from its status in the US, I'm just hoping US legislation won't affect how its software can be distributed or developed.

@laho Personally, I'd be more pro-actively concerned about CSAM in EU if anything. It's a world full of risk factors ;-) If there was anything related to non-profits with HQ in US ever that would not be specifically for LF. It is just one of many. It's speculative as hell risk factor tbh. Not something I'd spend energy on thinking.

@jarkko @laho

Related

https://lwn.net/Articles/1007272/

@jani @laho Yeah I've read that article and that is a valid argument bring up here. Not dismissing the concern but there's too many unknowns to say anything conclusive (even how much there is risk that anything in status quo would change).

Probably Greenland situation could play a role here but in that how Linux development will continue is least of my concern to be honest. In sensitive matters it is better to really consider before you open your mouth. It's not ignorance or self-protection but instead it is about making sure that you don't spread any more FUD than there already is on Internet...

@jani @laho https://lwn.net/ml/all/87wmefguqt.fsf@kernel.org/

When I read this I was thinking that "I wish I was smart as Kalle" ;-) Best wishes for him.

@jani @laho