I've been looking into degoogling a bit. It's not going well. I'm experimenting with Nextcloud, currently with the specific small goal of switching from Google Keep to Nextcloud Notes. The Android App for this is so bad. I want to like this but it's so hard.
I trust Google's data security a lot. They have a lot of smart people working on it. I'm less confident about Nextcloud and its hosting.
I mean I trust Google to keep my data safe, they do an excellent job of ensuring only me and, well, Google has full access to all my data.
@jani Why are you so sure about Google? It's not as if they don't have HUGE security issues
Ah, I don't know how to cite another toot here, so just:
https://floss.social/@thehappycoder@hachyderm.io/115615183221379326
A specific item in the Nextcloud Notes app: The top row of editing icons are minuscule.
It's not just that I'm middle aged and use bifocals, but my thumb being wide enough to cover four icons at once makes me feel sadly fat-fingered.
The font size setting has no impact on the icon size, but also curiously no impact on the rich text editor font size. Only the plain text editor.
@jarkko Yeah, this. I don't trust myself to run most of these services myself. I know I could learn it, but I'd rather do something else.
But even if I buy Nextcloud hosting, I know the expertise and monitoring and everything is scattered among dozens or hundreds of hosting companies.
@delawen Yeah, well, trust is a gut feeling, backed by evidence and track record. π€·
I use Google Workspace (checks notes, yeah it's still called that today) so it's on me (not Google) to ensure I don't reuse email addresses in my domain. They have no control on it.
Plain gmail accounts are another story, I don't know if they recycle them.
@jani There are way better apps than Nextcloud notes, that can also selfhost. Check out @joplinapp.
I'm sure there are. But I'm not looking to replace a plethora of Google services with a plethora of *independent* services, each with their own clouds, self-hosted or otherwise.
@jarkko Yay, it was me!
Feel free to Cc me on the patch. I don't really have any domain expertise to review, but I can chime in with my "I want this!" π
@jarkko Feels like a lot of home improvement type of things. "Come on, I'll do it, no need to remind me every year!"
@jani I use the plain Nextcloud mobile app and markdown text files for my notes. Works well.
@jani
You can also check https://opencloud.eu/en/ / https://github.com/opencloud-eu
Nextcloud is basically continuation of the ages old Owncloud, while Opencloud is more community oriented fork of the Owncloud-ng or whatever it was called (in short: forget about Owncloud itself, use the forks). PHP vs Go, too.
A colleague is using Opencloud, I'm using .. well, SSH and stuff, I don't have photos etc on Google no matter how much Photos tries to force me to click their "backups".
@jani @altim @joplinapp Perhaps you may like to have a look at #Proton.me services? I use a bit of Proton, a bit of #Nextcloud but TBH for notes I prefer #Joplin :)
@jani @altim @joplinapp You can configure Joplin to store it's notes in your nextcloud (or any other webdav backend). That's the way I use it.