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Jarkko Sakkinen

Solid state batteries from Finland:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/donut-labs-solid-state-battery-powered-motorcycle-turned-heads-ces-2026

Svolt CEO has declared this as scam based on that "if China cannot deliver solid state, neither can anyone else" 🤷
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@jarkko Just as non-scam as the Donut Labs CEOs previous project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgJKjiDLV8

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@suihkulokki Yeah, so I don't know. We'll see :-)
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@suihkulokki Yep, I'd bet for some sort of scam...
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@suihkulokki still the motorcycle looks savvy despite being probably fake :-) or like russian EV ....
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@jarkko The Verge motorcycle is real, I've seen one at our fast chargers :-) Just very expensive and very few made.

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@jarkko Which makes the scam weird. But the CEO has turned into all kinds of crazy projects as the financials of the motorcycle maker are going down the toilet.

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@suihkulokki OK but battery technology is still somewhat question mark, isn't it? I.e. only claims and rumours
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@jarkko Yeah the (real) Verge motorcycle had normal li-ion batteries that charge at max 22kW. This year's model refresh is supposed to be released with the fantasy battery

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@suihkulokki looking at news magic battery looks like a huge hoax :D weird that they ended up collaborating.
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@jarkko My theory is Verge was on the verge (hah) of bankruptcy so they invented magic battery to pull a quick one to sell the company to some gullible investors.

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@suihkulokki There's also quite known angel investors behind Donut Lab, such as founder of F-Secure, Risto Siilasmaa. This is weird.
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@jarkko The Korvavalo scam had also big investors like Anssi Vanjoki.

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@suihkulokki Is this also from Oulu? :-) Have not checked.
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@antti @jarkko The Lehtimäki Brothers are from Pohjanmaa afaik

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Also we shall not forget Europositron, if we speak about (possible) battery technology scam.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainer_Partanen
@suihkulokki @antti @jarkko

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@puhuri @suihkulokki @antti CEO of Verge seems excited tho at LinkedIn ;-) It's a weird combination of high-profile investors, one most likely legit company and a somewhat fuzzy startup. I'm waiting for the next episode...
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@jarkko @antti @puhuri BTW I really wish I'm wrong and donut battery turns out to be real... But I'm not counting on it.

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