Khalid ♾️
khalid@mastodon.nu
After playing around with @postmarketOS at #fosdem this weekend, I canceled my preorder of another phone and am going full on with PMOS. The gorgeous phosh-UI combined with fully OSS makes a strong case for this ecosystem.
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as400 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 🐧
as400@mas.toBeing honest here - afaik there is no phone with pmos that has reliable voice phone calls.
So if you use your phone for calling think twice.
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Pavel Machek
pavel
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Federico Izzo
fizzo@chaos.social@as400 @khalid @postmarketOS Pixel 3a has reliable phone calls on pmOS. I'm using it as daily driver with my main SIM on it. I carry a second commercial phone for the functionality that is not yet supported.
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as400 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 🐧
as400@mas.to@fizzo @khalid @postmarketOS @pavel
That's what I'm saying. There is always something...
No audio in headset, audio only on speaker, no bluetooth audio... etc
Please don't misinform people.
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@as400 @fizzo @khalid @postmarketOS @pavel there's no misinformation here, "no bluetooth audio for voice calls" (which is correct) isn't the same as "no reliable voice calls" (which is wrong).
I do daily drive a Pixel 3a as well (using @mobian, but hey, same kernel as pmOS) and I don't need nor use any other phone. Voice calls are reliable and have a 100% success rate in my experience.
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@as400 @awai @fizzo @khalid @pavel @mobian from what i hear op6 doesn't have reliable voice calls, anyone saying that is either very lucky or not aware of whatever specific workarounds they have in their workflow (e.g rebooting after every call...)
the only way to know for sure is to try, since there are many factors known and unknown that can affect things, but in general i would be cautious about expecting them to be reliable
this was a large motivator for setting up hardware ci, so that we can find reproducers for voice call issues and implement regression testing, but it will be some time before that yields improvements
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@khalid @postmarketOS Did you also consider a #Librem5 or #LibretyPhone by @purism?
The #Purism phones are a behind the latest #Phosh version, but #Phosh is default on #PureOS.
Also #PostmarketOS seems to run on the Librem 5. But I have no personal experience with that.
An upgrade of PureOS is in the works. You can read more about it here:
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@janvlug @khalid @postmarketOS @purism As the owner of a Librem 5 I don't understand how you can recommend this phone. It's incredibly expensive for what you're getting. The hardware was dated on arrival and it's not getting any better. Battery life is bad, GTK 4.0 doesn't have GPU acceleration on it since 4.18, and Purism barely invests in R&D for it any more. Does my mind serve me right that you invested money in Purism? With all due respect I can't imagine why else you would recommend it.
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@janvlug @khalid @postmarketOS @purism @newbyte @linmob he has a point though, and I actually think he was pretty civil about it? Especially the lack of GPU acceleration for GTK4 for a device that OOTB ships with a GTK-based stack is pretty major making it an awful choice to recommend.
The device was a fine choice when it released and it caused good software to be written but it's past it's prime and it's better now to recommend other devices.
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Jan Vlug
janvlug@mastodon.socialYes it is true that I invested in Purism. I invested in Purism because I want Linux phones to become successful.
I think it is good to consider also the commitment of the phone manufacturer to FOSS when you buy a phone. For Google phones, I would say support would go to the wrong company.
By buying from e.g. Purism you support the Linux phone ecosystem. Phosh was initiated by developers from Purism.
I use my Librem5 as my daily phone.
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@newbyte @janvlug That's why the only "new" phones I recommend to anybody are the Fairphones, and otherwise tell people to get second hand phones. Then no money is going to any awful company like that 😉
I'm daily driving a Google Pixel 3a with pmOS atm and I can tell you that no cent of mine went to Google for it
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