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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

The infra for a "blue screen of death" in the has landed in -next[1] and thus is slated for inclusion in 6.10:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240409163432.352518-1-jfalempe@redhat.com/

"'This introduces a new drm panic handler, which displays a message when a panic occurs. So when fbcon is disabled, you can still see a kernel panic.

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It works with simpledrm, mgag200, ast, and imx.

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Even if this is not yet useful, it will allows to work on more driver support, […]"'

[¹] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/log/?qt=grep&q=drm%2Fpanic

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@kernellogger I had bad feeling when Microsoft started contributing to Linux kernel :-).
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@pavel @kernellogger Nah, they're now on the same boat with us, being chased by the other big fish…

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@kernellogger I always has been wondering why Linux doesn't have anything like that.
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@a1ba

because it was hard to realize given the graphics stack and its history; you get a brief idea here:

https://dri.freedesktop.org/docs/drm/gpu/todo.html#make-panic-handling-work

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@pid_eins

Who speaks there?

An employee of a well known company that has something like that for many years now or the maintainer of a software that later implemented something like that? ;-)

/me runs and hides

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@kernellogger i think the underlying goal of "make it possible to run linux systems without VTs/fbcon (and, if necessary, use wayland to provide a recovery console)" is kinda interesting

personally gonna miss the ol' reliable framebuffer console, but the fact it's so full of hard-to-maintain code that a security vulnerability had to be fixed by just disabling scrollback kinda proves that its time is way past

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@rnd

yeah!

Somehow I lost track what will serve as replacement(s) for systems that want/need one. Kmscon seems kinda stalled. Or is there something else in the works?

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@ptesarik @kernellogger It looks like we are on the same boat with the big fish, too :-). Plus, Microsoft is still evil -- yes, they need Linux, so they contribute a bit, but the way they push Windows 11 and Office subscription is unethical. They are not cool open source company...
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@kernellogger it was supposed to be a very meta comment.

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