Snow! #ShotOnPinephonePro

For comparison: Snow 2 #ShotOnLibrem5

@linmob far out it's not even close :|

For even more comparison: Snow 3 #ShotOnPinePhone

(Next time I will do these shots in a shorter interval of time, I promise!)

@linmob I've always followed Purism and the Librem 5 for many years, even though I may never be able to afford it. Its really really cool stuff. What OS do you run on yours?

@baconicsynergy I am boring and run stock PureOS Byzantium (equivalent to Debian 11, "bullseye" oldstable) on mine, with many many flatpaks.

Purism's engineers took care of many of the little things, like shipping a GTK filepicker that works on mobile.

@julianfairfax Just read the alt texts, please. 🙃

@linmob \o/ correct color

@julianfairfax In theory, yes, but at least in postmarketOS edge, GNOME Camera/Snapshot does not work on the Librem 5, nor the PinePhone (using the apk, as that works without a proper portals setup). I am sure that there are branches/forks of Megapixels (other than Millipixels) that work on Librem 5 and PinePhone, which then could be a more fair comparison, but... I just don't have the time for that kind of tinkering, there's so much stuff that has a higher priority.

@linmob @julianfairfax alt text seems like a wrong place for technical info, because it should be a replacement for a picture in case it can't be viewed, so not everybody reads them.

@lyyn Yes, I see your point, and may (if I manage to remember) consider it going forward.
I find it visually more pleasing to not put a wall of text next to an image, and I hate having to type much on a software keyboard - this is why I did it this way here.

Here are three additional "Snows" shot closer (within less than 5 minutes) together time-wise on

1. the PinePhone with megapixels
2. the PinePhone Pro with GNOME Camera (snapshot) and
3. the Librem 5 with millipixels (see alt texts if you are not sure which device produced which jpg).

I think I somehow like the OG PinePhone's interpretation best.

@Nuuskis This is Munich, Germany, Europe, Earth :)

@linmob @Nuuskis But which galaxy?

@linmob Indeed on my monitor the librem 5 one also seems way too blue

@linmob which one is the most accurate though?

@linmob
The ppp needs a LOT of optimisation

@linmob
Wow Pinephone is better than ppp

@ikt PinePhone - it's likely less detailed though, when zooming in. But @martijnbraam et al. definitely did a great job with processing sensor data from PinePhone.

@talpa @Nuuskis Not Samsung, I think.

@linmob For the PPP / Camera I'd like to point out that it relies on #libcamera, #PipeWire and #GStreamer, all of which would need some improvements to get to similar results like MP on the PP (in case of libcamera mainly device specific).

That being said, the big advantage of using that stack is that the camera can be used in more apps, such as Decoder, @dino or #Firefox

So I personally would love to see more of the knowledge and optimizations in MP finding their way upstream :)

@linmob with my #librem5 I often manually set the white balance to avoid the "blueing" of the image.

@dad I sometimes do that with focus - the picture looks way less blue (very much like the PinePhone Pro picture) on the (in comparison to my secondary L5) yellowy screen on my first/main (early, I think build in 2020, bought used January 2021) Librem 5 - so I could not really fix that on device.

@rmader Yes, very good point, thank you for making it! This comparison was in no way meant to suggest "Snapshot bad", or similar - I rarely compare pictures like that, absolutely not a photography person 🙂 .

Megapixels pictures got this good with postprocessd https://git.sr.ht/~martijnbraam/postprocessd and stacking (poor slow PinePhone taking two pictures and then calculating/stacking a great result) - needless to say, PinePhone pictures take the longest time in processing.

@rmader @linmob @dino So... how much are you willing to help? If have auto-exposure support for libcamera, the rest of the stuff should be relatively easy, but integration is definitely not...

@pavel @dino @linmob #libcamera Software ISP patches just dropped 🎉 IIUC that's what we'd want to use for both the PP and the Librem: https://patchwork.libcamera.org/cover/19262/