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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev

AI farms can just up and die, please. Add overscraping to the long list of public resources being ruined by commercial greed -- to join overfishing, overlogging, and overgrazing.
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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev

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And no, it's not easy to "just throttle them" when it's thousands of IPs all coming from public cloud subnets with user-agents matching common modern browsers.
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mariusor@metalhead.club

marius

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@monsieuricon I think Drew DeVault has a project meant to keep track and fight against abuse: https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/abused

I'm not sure if it's appropriate for your use cases though. I remember they (the sourcehut people) started working on it after they had issues with a large DDoS earlier in the year.

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jan@eden.one

Jan Eden

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@monsieuricon I activated fail2ban just three days ago, and now I fear for the iptables config size.

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aeischeid@mastodon.social

Aaron In Minnesota

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@monsieuricon Figuring out a snappy way to say that so much of "AI" is excess / wasteful / bad, but that it maybe could be useful and done responsibly would be really good I think. Overscraping might not be it, but overfishing for example doesn't demonize fishing it frames it in a sustainability lens, and that is a crucial piece missing in the criticisms of AI, I think.

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aeischeid@mastodon.social

Aaron In Minnesota

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@monsieuricon Just don't think the broader public can connect with "scraping" mentally. Though I could be wrong, I think it is sort of a niche concept.

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aeischeid@mastodon.social

Aaron In Minnesota

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@monsieuricon Maybe we need sustainably-sourced locally-grown AI, not factory farmed AI ?

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brian@pepple.us

Brian Pepple fedora python

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@monsieuricon 💯

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alwayscurious@infosec.exchange

Demi Marie Obenour

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@monsieuricon Is blocking all public cloud subnets an option?

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