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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

Edited 11 months ago

It makes me sad when I see people running into mainline regressions and spending time on bisecting them when a simple fix is already available and even spend more than a day in linux-next – like in this case (but it's just one example from today): https://lore.kernel.org/all/61579b26-88b5-428a-b818-5021e528471d@gmx.de/

I wish we would mainline such simple fixes a lot faster, as not doing so just annoys other people and makes them waste their time without much gain.

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@kernellogger Bisecting should be on or start with linux-next. I don't think we should be sending fixes to Linus' somehow faster. Rather people should learn to work on linux-next.
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@kernellogger What was making me sad with such bisection, that after few hours of bisecting, not fully automated so with my personal (not work!) time spent on this, I send a report or even a fix and the maintainer squashes it with original commit. No credits about my work, no Reported-by, nothing for my few hours of personal time which I could spend on eating skittles.
After few of such cases, I stopped entirely reporting linux-next issues hit on my systems, unless the issue is visible for like two weeks. After two weeks, if my CI is still finding the issue, then there is a chance I will be credited with finding it...
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@kernellogger Also arm32 (with arm-none-eabi-gcc compiler e.g. from Arch Linux) compilation has been broken since v6.7-rc1 and is still broken as of today in mainline.

There's also a fix in -next: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=35732699f5d2922ff674e711e566cf44a4bd86d2

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@kernellogger Or, like even very small IT companies do, actually use a bugtracker to have a central place to look for bug reports and proposed patches. Ok, ok, I'll see myself out. 😉

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@krzk

"start with linux-next": maybe, but even some kernel devs fear merge window or -rc1 kernels – next is even scarier, so some people are unlikely to go there.

I think we definitely should be sending fixes *for issues like this* to Linus faster, as I can see no real downside once it's been in next. But yes, for some fixes more time can be wise.

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@krzk

sigh; can fully understand this and yes, that is sad, too 🥴

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