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gregkh

Greg K-H

Turns out almost no one uses extra-long LTS kernels, so let's slowly unwind from that interesting experiment:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/kernel/website.git/commit/?id=5cca06606a7dcb2a0a6b6a818072b81b21287b3b
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kees@fosstodon.org

Kees Cook tux

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@gregkh Who was the original target audience and what changed about their consumption patterns?

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gregkh

Greg K-H

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@kees Android and EU regulations.
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kees@fosstodon.org

Kees Cook tux

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@gregkh Ah! Neat. What're the regulations? This is (likely good) news to me.

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gregkh

Greg K-H

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@kees See https://social.kernel.org/notice/ARWvggnOvXny0CUCIa for more details.
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pro@mu.zaitcev.nu

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@gregkh This sounds weird for me: the commit log says "wind back", but the EOL dates are moved out to the future, so the support period is made longer. I thought that "wind back" meant "to reduce something that was extended too far".
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ignacio@plong.eu

Ignacio Quezada

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@gregkh any statistics/data available showing kernels versions used out there?

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gregkh

Greg K-H

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@ignacio No public ones that I know of sorry. Ask your favorite Android/Cloud/Distro vendor for what they use if you are curious. Otherwise, just don't worry about it and always use the latest stable kernel releases and you will be fine.
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ignacio@plong.eu

Ignacio Quezada

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@gregkh I see. I suppose the folks behind Ubuntu that extend support for Ubuntu 16 with kernel 4.4 until 2026 do the backporting of security patches themselves.

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gregkh

Greg K-H

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@ignacio I have no idea how Ubuntu does anything, go ask them how they determine what is to be added to those old and obsolete kernel versions. You're paying them for that support, so you deserve to know how it is managed. Good luck!
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