PSA: when I’m unanimously elected Grand Pooh-Bah and Emperor - it’s only a matter of time, since the current political model certainly isn’t working - the whole “Sunday is the first day of the week” nonsense in the US calendars will go away.

Just so you know.

Yeah, I can deal with it by just setting my locale to be UK instead of US, and since I’m ok with 24-hour time anyway, that works well for me.

I just want to save everybody else from this insanity. Who is with me?

So to prepare for that inevitable day, I would strongly suggest that any calendaring app writer already make “Monday is the first day of the week” an option. You know it’s what most people think anyway.

Kudos to Google Calendar for getting this right when so few others do (eg the “snooze until” calendar in gmail does not 😒).

@torvalds yes thank you.

Also please switch to year-month-date everywhere. On that front, the Asians (and the Hungarians) are clearly doing it better than the others.

@nicemicro @torvalds It's the only rational way. The other common formats can be misinterpreted. Is 2/1/2023 in January or February? You need the context to figure it out. 2023-01-02 is pretty clear.

Okay, there probably is someone out there happily doing YYYY-DD-MM, but we don't hang out.

@animist @torvalds nobody wants a whole week of Mondays, come on.

@krogers @torvalds more than that, if you write your dates at yyyy-mm-dd, it actually gets properly sorted without any additional fiddling.

@nicemicro @torvalds This is the real reason it is close to my heart. When I append a date to a filename (yes, I have been known to do such a regressive thing), I want the various versions to sort correctly!

@Bryan daylight savings time is right out. Or at least the switching between that and “standard” time.

But that might actually happen here on the west coast one day even without me having to become Grand Pooh-Bah.

@krogers @nicemicro @torvalds What's the progressive thing, then? Calling it "oopsie.log"? ;-)

@tommythorn strangely, I don’t actually mind imperial measurements. I’m perfectly fine converting C to F and back without any issues, and same for miles and km. I still have no idea how many feet to a mile, but it has never actually come up as an issue.

During travels, I’ve had rental cars that have speedometers in mph, while the posted speed limit is in km/h, and after a short initial confusion about why everybody is driving so slow, I adapt just fine.

I even got used to the strange date order.

But middle of the weekend is not the first day of the week. Not even after living here for more than a quarter century. It’s one of the very few things that still trip me. It happened today, in fact.

Thus the upcoming imperial decree.

@torvalds luckily Sunday is not particularly important for Linux so there can't be any confusion...

@nicemicro @krogers @torvalds only until 9999-12-31...

@wezeldog would you alphabetize “Creamy Tomato Soup” under “C” or with the other Tomato Soups?

I think you’ve picked a fairly untractable problem to solve, but I wish you luck in your endeavors.

@bracken @nicemicro @krogers @torvalds

Imagine the panic they're going to have, trying to find COBOL programmers leading up to the year 10,000.

@torvalds: I would love to use Monday as the first weekday, but the ISO tells me that Sunday is day 0.

@RupertReynolds @krogers @nicemicro @torvalds prefixing the filename with the date?

I'm told this is the rule at banks, or at at least one of them