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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁

Have we decided if Josh Law is a bot or not? I have a linux.dev account request from this entity.
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@monsieuricon even if not a bot (but a juvenile human operator of bots), definitely not one I'd give it to, if possible.

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@axboe @monsieuricon he's almost certainly using openclaw connected to gemini to send series without human intervention.

But he sometimes replies probably as a real person, who is an internet troll and enjoying toying with us most likely.

It's that or a nefarious state actor, in either case nobody we want involved in the kernel.

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@ljs @axboe @monsieuricon There were some more interactions with few more people off-list. Let me forward them.
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@ljs @axboe @monsieuricon But regardless, Josh Law is not a maintainer and should not be such for longer time, considering amount of lies he produced and kept insisting on, even when proven these were lies.

@linux.dev is for maintainers, right? So that's the answer.

To submit patches via SMTP and receive email to a sane IMAP client he can as well use Gmail account - works well and is free. Many people do it, so that's also not a reason to get @linux.dev.

He was told to slow down and learn, but I only see actions still in pursue of some maintainership or other involvement beyond learning. Asking for @linux.dev also feels like asking to legitimize identity or at least get some boost in reputation.

You boost reputation by not sending microslop, not by getting @linux.dev.
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@krzk @axboe @monsieuricon I thought linux.dev was more so for enthuasists and kernel.org for maintainers?

But obviously I substantively agree with what you say, he's probably wanting an account like this to see more legitimate/cover his tracks more.

The guy's abusing the system as it is, and should be treated like any troll - i.e. not given anything.

We need better mechanisms to block people like this.

Before the difficulty of sending patches was enough of a barrier, but with AI now any old idiot can start playing games like this :)

Wild times guys

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I thought linux.dev was more so for enthuasists and kernel.org for maintainers?

@ljs @axboe @monsieuricon Ah, true, maintainer/reviewer OR “ongoing history with Linux kernel development”: https://korg.docs.kernel.org/linuxdev.html

kernel.org is for maintainers handling code, but there are many people listed in MAINTAINERS which do not handle the code but have M: status, mostly for individual drivers.

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@krzk @axboe @monsieuricon yeah have seen a bunch of maintainers use it as well to be fair!

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@monsieuricon This discussion raises the topic more social than technical. I'm worrying that if the kid is genuine in his eagerness to become a kernel dev, we should praise that as we have aging maintainers and developers situation. Yet, he need to proove he is indeed smart (in the correct way of this term) and not using assistance to just look smart.
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