I don't feel like working on megapixels anymore

in fact, let's do this

@martijnbraam What makes you feel that way, if you don't mind explaining?

@emersion it's a horrible stack to work with, especially since the competition owns the kernel side. All while everyone just wants to use libcamera anyway. I have not booted a Linux phone in ages and have no use-case for it anymore.

For the last six months I've basically been messing with software nobody really wants for a community that doesn't care.

@emersion it wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't so incredibly hard to develop.

@martijnbraam
Is it really a "either or"?

@martijnbraam They are not mutually exclusive. Megapixels is for still photos and more mature. Libcamera is for the rest, and slowly getting there, maybe. I'm afraid video input is simply quite hard, and is not getting adequate attention :-(.

@martijnbraam Likely won't matter much but there are people following megapixel's development with interest (including me).

well.. there you go. go enjoy libcamera then

@martijnbraam I wouldn’t want Linux to disappear just because most folks use windows, and I’d rather megapixels didn’t disappear just because 60% prefers libcamera.

I consider the design of megapixels to be a lot cleaner and. And I’ve really enjoyed your blog posts on its development.

Ultimately, I hope you can work on what you enjoy. Even if these than half the folks out there use it, it’s still valuable to them, and the dev blogs are really interesting learning material.

@whynothugo it's not that 60% prefers libcamera, it's that 60% of my mastodon followers prefer I don't work on megapixels.

@martijnbraam @whynothugo libcamera isn't the application. It's the framework, whats the blocker to deliver great camera based on libcamera? Everything isn't about backend.

@okias @whynothugo libcamera api is fundamentally flawed to make a good camera app.

@martijnbraam @whynothugo Propose changes, fork it, etc... V4L2 seems to be even worst than libcamera.

@martijnbraam i would not pretend to have any right to impose you to work on anything, but i can absolutely thank you for your work. megapixels was the raison mobile linux got daily drivable to me. megapixels take great pictures on the pinephone thanks for all your great work. i hope you can enjoy yourself on other passetime, and that you would feel lighter, it's sad to get as much pressure... i hope the best for you.

@okias @martijnbraam @whynothugo That's not really feasible. libcamera is big project. I view megapixels as research into taking still photos. libcamera is more of drivers for various ISPs, with no particular focus.

It seems you go away a little more from #linuxmobile @martijnbraam 😭 ... but thanks for all your work, you made lots of things possible ...

I just wonder, with all your investment in those systems (pinephone, pmos, megapixels ...), why aren't you daily driving a Linux Phone ? What are the blockers according to you ?

@fdlamotte I don't daily drive linux phones because everyone is fucking around with making flashy apps and porting 20 desktop environments instead of making a phone distro I dare to run upgrades on while being more that 5 meters away from my PC.

@martijnbraam @fdlamotte People tend to what they can, and flashy apps are fun :). Eventually, enough people will join the effort that even the "boring" work gets done, but I'm afraid we are not quite there. But things are getting better :-).

@martijnbraam @fdlamotte People like flashy apps, and with opensource, people do what they like. Things are quickly getting better, soon we'll have enough manpower so that even "boring" jobs get done :-).

@pavel @martijnbraam @whynothugo Right, big project, but consumer survey shows camera is one main factor in choosing a phone. 1/2

@pavel @martijnbraam @whynothugo If Linux aims to be a viable option, we need people who can invest serious time into designing it and that's why I value your and Martijn work a lot. But it won't be easy. 2/2