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@andrew i decided to call it kpodman.c for now and mimic distantly podman cli :-)
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@jani And I think both are great support functions for kernel dev. Right and I use for both of these a cli. My text editor does not and will not have an AI :-)
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@jani Right and second application: mechanical but tedious git history rewrites, namely "split a commit" :-)
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@jani I use LLM a lot like this:

1. Scope: find issues. Don't write code. Don't propose a fix.
2. Then I go through of findings and drop false positives.
3. For the remaining, I figure out something :-)
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Jarkko Sakkinen

I'm trying to figure out a name for C file containing minimal container manager (or distantly a container manager). All I can make up is kontainer.c :-/ I guess I have to fix to that then. This is for kselftest.
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@jani Yeah, I watched this at Github lol. Someone linked it to me.
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@kernellogger I was thinking first to give a shot with SGX because I know the opcodes really well but since I have already this crate [1] and TPM2 affects my life more than SGX ATM, let's try that at first :-)

[1] https://crates.io/crates/tpm2-protocol
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@kernellogger For TPM2 type of devices having Rust to manage emulation is quite essential given the combination of structural complexity and cryptography in the binary protocol.

I could imagine that Rust could be also a great angle to deliver confidential computing opcodes for QEMU.
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@kernellogger Not as many may know this but QEMU also has a nice Rust integration these days.

I implemented a feature for integrated TPM chip emulations in QEMU, and have a profile for Infienon SLB 9672 in progress. It's a half-C-half-Rust feature and so far progress has been smooth. VM sees my chip etc. and the developer experience has been surprisingly smooth :-)
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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

The support in the is now officially a first class citizen and not considered experimental any more:

https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/9fa7153c31a3e5fe578b83d23bc9f185fde115da; for more details, see also: https://lwn.net/Articles/1050174/

This is one of the highlights from the main for 7.0 that was merged a few hours ago ; for others, see https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/c/a9aabb3b839aba094ed80861054993785c61462c

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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 3 months ago
I'll replace the test-container.c from the original patch set with kcontainer.c, which is a stripped down container manager, and a shell script containing the test cases.

It's really just a wrapper for container_* but should demonstrate with reasonable realism the capabilities of the kernel feature.
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Jarkko Sakkinen

A new Git subcommand I was not aware of: git range-diff. It compares two versions of branch.

This came up now that I forked dhowell's container object patch set.

E.g.,

git range-diff refs/remotes/fs/container...container
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Listen up, dear frontiersmen.
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 3 months ago
Overall this looks stil very wrong but some very basics have been put in place:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jarkko/linux-tpmdd.git/log/?h=container

Basic plumbing:

1. Some splitting to chunks that make more sense.
2. scripts/checkpatch.pl --strict -g master..container passes.
3. I implemented the missing container_wait and container_kill (only compiled-tested).

Next step is to substitute a random test program with a kselftest. After that this can be actually hammered.

These patches have at least a potential to simplify container runtimes quite a lot. And preparation and launch are well-ordered given container_fork().
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@oleksandr With swcam the basis of nack was "not useful for companies creating V4L2 associated hardware => not useful for anyone", or this is how I summarized it at least in my mind.

I'd except at least a more reasonable nack and maybe even learn something in the process; the bar is quite low atm :-)
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@oleksandr i consider nack as done :-) i just want fully drain my backlog.
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Jarkko Sakkinen

hooray, i have container_create() syscall running on top of mainline tip.

can't wait to write some cool tests for this :-)

this is by definition "against the odds" feature...
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Jarkko Sakkinen

The defence project in EU that could not get enough funding: https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-space/iris2-secure-connectivity_en

Because option B is to call to Musk :-)
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@vbabka It has also a slightly different goal if I got it right. i do emulation and cocoon-tpm does production (in an enclave or whatever SEV VM workloads are called). they could find possibly tpm2-protocol crate useful tho as it is an isolated binariy parser (no IO or similar ties, requires only stack).

It's good to keep this project in mind tho. I mean probably there is a meningful intersection of code eventually. Just get things going on I'll take max redundancy path for the time being :-) Probably a bunch of projects would benefit a common emulator core (in SGX, TDX enclaves for instance and what-TEE-not).
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 3 months ago
I think getting some kind of version of QEMU TPM integrated emulation by LSS 2026 CfP would be a resonable goal.

I was feeling that TPM2 crate stuff alone was somehow incomplete but that would definitely close the circle for the topic :-)

I have my command-line tool tpm2sh but it does not take the topic out of the closure of my own doings...

Great.
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