@pinkforest OK so how does it allow to use copyleft licenses effectively in those tiny units? I'm lost with this talk about storage space and runtime overhead, which have absolutely nothing to do with the topic. This is about IP protection e.g. with LGPL.
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For open source to surive, I think there should be radical shift towards wider use of copyleft licenses. This is the reality now, and it is better to accept it. And BTW, I was never a huge GPL advocate before.
How to tackle this with Rust and especially cargo, is an open question that needs to be resolved.
Throwing one potential solution: theoretically cargo could detect LGPL in dependency chains and make DSOs of these crates, which would be piggybacked into a virtual filesystem in the executable.
I'm not sure tho does that still comply for LGPL 2.1 when used e.g., in proprietary context.
There's also ABI work ongoing to get a stable DSO ABI for Rust but perhaps distribution problem could be resolved without resolving the ABI problem?
How to tackle this with Rust and especially cargo, is an open question that needs to be resolved.
Throwing one potential solution: theoretically cargo could detect LGPL in dependency chains and make DSOs of these crates, which would be piggybacked into a virtual filesystem in the executable.
I'm not sure tho does that still comply for LGPL 2.1 when used e.g., in proprietary context.
There's also ABI work ongoing to get a stable DSO ABI for Rust but perhaps distribution problem could be resolved without resolving the ABI problem?
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I totally get now why Logic Pro is AU-only. Having multiple plugin hosts in a DAW has devastative effect on latency compensation.
By having only CLAP latency compensation becomes a problem, which is elegant to resolve, not least because the standard has this inevitable reality recognized and addressed.
Thus, in my world everything is CLAP :-)
By having only CLAP latency compensation becomes a problem, which is elegant to resolve, not least because the standard has this inevitable reality recognized and addressed.
Thus, in my world everything is CLAP :-)
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opensuse@fosstodon.org#openSUSE is dropping pcr-oracle in Full Disk Encryption #FDE. systemd-pcrlock now handles #TPM2 policy, fixing rollback attacks and simplifying maintenance. Migration is just two commands! 🔒🐧 Find out more. #Linux https://news.opensuse.org/2026/03/11/dropping-pcr-oracle/
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Recipes:
1. Have a local Git hosting.
2. Understand in detail your licensing framework.
3. Never publish until understanding both source code and licensing framework in-depth.
4. Learn about supplemental claims. Look examples of this. Plugin hosts is one of the examples where this needs special attention.
5. Learn not to publish because the opposite is preprogrammed feature of human psychology. We like to show our shit too eagerly and sometimes this causes troubles :-)
6. For the rest of your life, for better or worse, failing or not failing, you plan everything when it comes to:
6a. licensing
6b. releases (e.g. time line for initial publication)
7. Understand the source code. Don't push anything until you do. There are no ways to get around this. By doing this e.g., LLM becomes a tool, and you become a contributor.
There's stuff that Rust and also Cargo could do here and change the game a bit but enough is enough, let's save for another day :-)
Recipes:
1. Have a local Git hosting.
2. Understand in detail your licensing framework.
3. Never publish until understanding both source code and licensing framework in-depth.
4. Learn about supplemental claims. Look examples of this. Plugin hosts is one of the examples where this needs special attention.
5. Learn not to publish because the opposite is preprogrammed feature of human psychology. We like to show our shit too eagerly and sometimes this causes troubles :-)
6. For the rest of your life, for better or worse, failing or not failing, you plan everything when it comes to:
6a. licensing
6b. releases (e.g. time line for initial publication)
7. Understand the source code. Don't push anything until you do. There are no ways to get around this. By doing this e.g., LLM becomes a tool, and you become a contributor.
There's stuff that Rust and also Cargo could do here and change the game a bit but enough is enough, let's save for another day :-)
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Recipes:
1. Have a local Git hosting.
2. Understand in detail your licensing framework.
3. Never publish until understanding both source code and licensing framework in-depth.
4. Learn about supplemental claims. Look examples of this. Plugin hosts is one of the examples where this needs special attention.
5. Learn not to publish because the opposite is preprogrammed feature of human psychology. We like to show our shit too eagerly and sometimes this causes troubles :-)
6. For the rest of your life, for better or worse, failing or not failing, you plan everything when it comes to:
6a. licensing
6b. releases (e.g. time line for initial publication)
7. Understand the source code. Don't push anything until you do. There are no ways to get around this. By doing this e.g., LLM becomes a tool, and you become a contributor.
There's stuff that Rust and also Cargo could do here and change the game a bit but enough is enough, let's save for another day :-)
Recipes:
1. Have a local Git hosting.
2. Understand in detail your licensing framework.
3. Never publish until understanding both source code and licensing framework in-depth.
4. Learn about supplemental claims. Look examples of this. Plugin hosts is one of the examples where this needs special attention.
5. Learn not to publish because the opposite is preprogrammed feature of human psychology. We like to show our shit too eagerly and sometimes this causes troubles :-)
6. For the rest of your life, for better or worse, failing or not failing, you plan everything when it comes to:
6a. licensing
6b. releases (e.g. time line for initial publication)
7. Understand the source code. Don't push anything until you do. There are no ways to get around this. By doing this e.g., LLM becomes a tool, and you become a contributor.
There's stuff that Rust and also Cargo could do here and change the game a bit but enough is enough, let's save for another day :-)
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I'm developing this like a proprietary product which ships when it is ready despite likely releasing it with one of the copyleft licenses.
This is to both allow me to fulfill my artistic vision and also maximize my abilities to defend intellectual property rights given a single data entity nature off the license protected object.
This is to both allow me to fulfill my artistic vision and also maximize my abilities to defend intellectual property rights given a single data entity nature off the license protected object.
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It has finally crystalized me what I'm really doing with my leisure time activity since early Fall :-)
"A Linux-focused DAW built from scratch around its own desktop-like UI, deterministic rendering and input handling, a CLAP-only plugin architecture, and persistent CoW snapshot-based history — all aimed at delivering extremely accurate low-latency behavior and eventually industry-leading audio/MIDI routing."
It makes total sense to me now that it is on paper.
#linux #audio #dsp #musicproduction
"A Linux-focused DAW built from scratch around its own desktop-like UI, deterministic rendering and input handling, a CLAP-only plugin architecture, and persistent CoW snapshot-based history — all aimed at delivering extremely accurate low-latency behavior and eventually industry-leading audio/MIDI routing."
It makes total sense to me now that it is on paper.
#linux #audio #dsp #musicproduction
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@pinkforest deepest condolences with that.
In 2024 I made decision to stick GPLv3.
With my DAW I will be 100% GPLv3 including libraries. Makes my life easier i.e., less weird stuff.
And to keep pickiest of FSF happy I'll add small exception for loading (not distributing with) proprietary plugin through the CLAP host.
Complicating my life with LGPL2.1+ libraries is such energy loss for me. E.g., if there was incident it's one single blob with one license if I use GPLv3. Easier at latest at court.
Such incident would surely piss me off enough that I would not stop until I get justice no matter the cost...
In 2024 I made decision to stick GPLv3.
With my DAW I will be 100% GPLv3 including libraries. Makes my life easier i.e., less weird stuff.
And to keep pickiest of FSF happy I'll add small exception for loading (not distributing with) proprietary plugin through the CLAP host.
Complicating my life with LGPL2.1+ libraries is such energy loss for me. E.g., if there was incident it's one single blob with one license if I use GPLv3. Easier at latest at court.
Such incident would surely piss me off enough that I would not stop until I get justice no matter the cost...
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Random Mandelbrot
mrandelbot@aus.social-0.8309720144822054 + -0.18479928945814048i at zoom 1.1482443609e+12.
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Last glitches fixed. I've fully realized a binary DAW project format, which does not have concept of "saving" or "backup files".
Combining the best features of tracker modules and modern developments of file system snapshots. I like how opposite poles these topics are but this actually works :-)
Combining the best features of tracker modules and modern developments of file system snapshots. I like how opposite poles these topics are but this actually works :-)
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daw making is sick if you get into it. like model railroads type of madness.
i find myself happily making little knob and slider widgets to my UI framework for the use of my clap plugins. and still not bored.
I did read some recentish publications on latency compensaiton, studied clap, and realized that if I fix up to everything is clap I can make things sync really well. Worts case is when you have multiple hosts and bridges and whanot.
i find myself happily making little knob and slider widgets to my UI framework for the use of my clap plugins. and still not bored.
I did read some recentish publications on latency compensaiton, studied clap, and realized that if I fix up to everything is clap I can make things sync really well. Worts case is when you have multiple hosts and bridges and whanot.
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How much water do the data centres use? It's a secret.
Do you want Immortan Joes? Because this is how you get Immortan Joes. Roanoke gets its drinking water from Carvins Cove Reservoir. The locals tried to find out just how much water Google would be...
https://jwz.org/b/yk4G
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My new guidelines for a new open source project in 2026:
1. Do not publish your test suite.
2. Delay the initial public repository as far away towards future as possible.
3. Do not aim for cross-os portability. Aim for cross-os non-portability.
4. Do not provide any other documentation except minimal man page and README. Less detailed documentation is better documentation.
In my DAW project I apply these best practices and levaraging Pipewire and Linux without any shim layers and at full scale will address the bullet three :-)
1. Do not publish your test suite.
2. Delay the initial public repository as far away towards future as possible.
3. Do not aim for cross-os portability. Aim for cross-os non-portability.
4. Do not provide any other documentation except minimal man page and README. Less detailed documentation is better documentation.
In my DAW project I apply these best practices and levaraging Pipewire and Linux without any shim layers and at full scale will address the bullet three :-)
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Dropped macOS/CoreAudio support from my DAW because of limited time and I want to see what you can accomplish with Linux-exclusive e.g., by taking full advantage of syscalls and Pipewire. Cross-architecture on the other hand is a high priority.
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@pinkforest, that chardet incident made me think about this topic :-)
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My strategy to AI theft is to move the release of the source code as far away in time as possible. E.g, this is the approach for my DAW. I'll do the whole thing privately until it is just great enough to get the grip. This builds the community at fast rates, which also mitigates ther risk, and provides governance. It will be GPLv3 but as a in-dev project I'm more vulnerable.
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grepe@ieji.desome time ago i (half) joked that the only job #llm can replace outright is the CEO.
today i attended an earnings call where a synthetised voice of our CEO read multi-page long table of numbers from an official financial document, according to a script prepared by claude, over a single slide titled "company earnings 2025" - to a room full of employees who commuted to the office to watch it in person. there was no management present or even shown on the screen.
it was the most disturbed dystopian fucking thing i've experienced in my career of working for soul-crushing corporations.
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