@as400 It's protected very well. Just fork it. Or review commits. Or revert them. It's all open. There is no owner (except copyright owners but that does not matter here). You can do with it whatever you wish, as long as you keep it still open (and few other things enforced by GPL v2).

@pdp7 @ptesarik Yeah, I like that idea and for many it would be considered neutral or more neutral place. It won't silence all "neutrality" voices, though. No matter how much you wish, you cannot escape politics when dealing with known, big organization.

@ptesarik Countries are political concepts, so every country where you move the organization will impose some sort of politics on that organization. Unless you propose moving to Principality of Sealand? :)
Joking aside, Linux Foundation is nowadays business with very big business behind, so change of residency might not change much.

RE: https://fosstodon.org/@ptesarik/113355467229724671

I guess many are watching interesting email thread now. :)
One-time posters, language typo fixers and devs of architecture from a country far away from GMT. And even certain compression library is brought as an argument, while disclosing private emails and using quite aggressive tone.

Heh. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I know now which emails will trigger careful patch review, suspecting foreign country involvement. :)

Above of course does not cover known individuals from that thread. I feel sympathetic with Nikita, whose patches I was reviewing over last years, and who should not be put in the same basket with some companies.

3rd Zurich Linux'n'Beer CH meetup will take place on 16th of October, 6:30 PM in Rheinfelder Bierhalle in Zurich. You are welcome to come!
Thanks @Andi for putting this together and booking up the place for us.

@ljs @kdave @axboe @kernellogger @vbabka @vmiheer

Oh the irony on poor Kent:
"Really, as long as you think it's ok to commit patches without CCing the mailing
list _or_ the maintainer, then fuck you."
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20150831195305.GA2822@kmo-pixel/

Damn archives, they should be wiped after 2 years max. :)

Russia kidnaps Ukrainian children, changes their identities and their names. The Polish foreign minister asks: How does that differ from the Nazis who kidnapped Russian and Polish children for the same purpose?

https://www.threads.net/@polandmfa/post/DAVqCpRug4B?xmt=AQGzYBrGsY48nUagk_qkrZv0VT6GBuaYrDDX9FnO5XKjhA

Bartosz Golaszewski from Linaro describing new Power Sequencing subsystem in Linux kernel.
Linux Plumbers Conference 2024 #LinuxPlumbers2024 #lpc2024 #linux
https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1908/

@geert try to enter to neighboring VIC (the same underground station). Serious guy with a machine gun welcomes you on the entrance.

Manivannan Sadhasivam leading discussion on PCI Endpoint open items: virtio, QEMU and more. Linux Plumbers Conference 2024 #LinuxPlumbers2024 #lpc2024 #linux
https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1683/

@ljs Let's start with grabbing beers and we figure out paying later.
P.S. Is that an invitation for a date?

The Linux Plumbers Conference is just in three days and I am looking forward to it. I see plenty of interesting topics, so the conference looks promising. If Devicetree is something of interest for you, please come visit "Devicetree Birds of Feather" session on Friday morning:
https://lpc.events/event/18/contributions/1783/

P.S. If you want to grab a beer or chat, find me in the halls or get in touch via email/fedi. I won't be attending OSSE, though. Only Plumbers.

I’m happy to announce the Amlogic ARM64 Device Tree is now fully documented in linux-next, ready for v6.12!

Since the beginning of Device Tree on Linux, we documented how it should be written so drivers could know what to expect, it’s called “bindings”, it’s a sort of “contract” between Device Tree and drivers.

But those were written in human readable open text format, without any automated way to verify Device Tree files. There were numerous attempts, but ultimately Rob Herring leveraged JSON Schema [1] into “dtschema” [2] leading to this patch serie https://lore.kernel.org/all/20181005165848.3474-1-robh@kernel.org/.

Thus “dtschema” made it possible to write bindings in YAML and the developed scripts would convert Device Tree in YAML and run a validation with JSON Schema validation. This was merged in end of 2018 then conversion of the text files in YAML files started.

For reference, there were 3278 text bindings in Linux 4.20 git tree, in today’s Linux next for v6.12 only 1250 text files remains but there’s 4345 yaml files now! In addition to the transition to yaml bindings, new platforms were introduced using the new format.

Around one year ago, I upstreamed support for the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and it was fully documented from day 1, and most of the changes was yaml bindings change since the SoC was mainly an upgrade from the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 I helped upstream 2 years ago.

Let’s go back to Amlogic, were I started converting the text file to yaml bindings in August 2019 (see [3]), and finally ended the transition early this month with the patch [4]. This makes the Amlogic ARM64 Device Trees join fully documented along other platforms like Samsung Exynos

If you want to know more about Device Tree validation, you can look at my @LinaroLtd colleague @krzk talk he did in this year's #EOSS in Seattle https://sched.co/1aBEf!

Now the links:
[1] https://json-schema.org/
[2] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190801135644.12843-1-narmstrong@baylibre.com/
[4] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240905-topic-amlogic-upstream-gxlx-drop-iio-compat-v2-1-7a690eb95bc2@linaro.org/
Thanks for reading !

U-Boot on Qualcomm Snapdragon platforms - great work, @calebccff !
https://www.linaro.org/blog/initial-u-boot-release-for-qualcomm-platforms/

@calebccff, Are these releases already using upstream/Linux kernel DTS? Looking at your qcom_defconfig, it seems answer is yes (OF_UPSTREAM)?

@kernellogger The problem is that Qualcomm ships devices with some weird ACPI tables which Linux simply cannot use. I don't know the details good enough to explain more. Maybe it would require rewriting several drivers to work with such Qcom-ACPI-variant.

RE: https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/112874114752280325

@mripard Nothing, but the topic shifted towards why usage of such laptops is non-trivial in the beginning.

RE: https://fosstodon.org/@mripard/112874339733019220

@kernellogger It boils down whether ACPI is properly implemented on given platform. There are ARM64 platforms running correctly under ACPI, e.g. most of the ARM64 servers, and you don't care about such differences.
The trouble starts when ACPI is not there (so almost all embedded designs, mobile phones/tables) or ACPI is somehow botched (e.g. Qualcomm Snapdragon compute platforms and laptops based on it), because then you go with Devicetree/DTS and everything starts... But such platforms are not consumer devices, usually. And really the Qualcomm Snapdragon for laptops should have just used ACPI.

RE: https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/112871174600451364

@artagnon It is paid. Paid Google.

@artagnon @kernellogger

I’ve edited out the link. The LKML patch clearly states that the GPU requires OEM signing; nothing more.

Correct but why is that a problem? The ZAP firmware file needed for this will be most likely available. At least it is available already for two of mentioned earlier Lenovo laptops: Thinkpad Yoga Slim 7 and ThinkPad T14s.

Dmitry’s unimportant and harmless cleanup spurred some weird, harming gossips or uncertainties…

@artagnon @kernellogger And I forgot - also Lenovo ThinkPad T14s, the third consumer-available laptop.