K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@Conan_Kudo @jacksonchen666 @vincent @marcan I'm not convinced this is accurate. It's easy to blame tooling, which is the most visible part of the process. However, I'm pretty sure if we replace this with the most amazing workflow of submitting and reviewing the code, we'll still be 90% in the same situation, because:
1. Writing kernel code is hard
2. Reviewing kernel code is even harder
3. Upstreaming to rapidly-moving mainline is the hardest
We need maintainers, preferably well-paid teams of maintainers, much more than we need a shiny code review toolset.
1. Writing kernel code is hard
2. Reviewing kernel code is even harder
3. Upstreaming to rapidly-moving mainline is the hardest
We need maintainers, preferably well-paid teams of maintainers, much more than we need a shiny code review toolset.
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@Conan_Kudo @jacksonchen666 @vincent @marcan if the solution is to fall back to what we're doing now, then we've not really solved anything, just complicated the process and made it more fragile.
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@Conan_Kudo @jacksonchen666 @vincent @marcan kernel.org was offline for months in 2011 and Linux releases kept going out.
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@Conan_Kudo @jacksonchen666 @vincent @marcan no it isn't. If you knock out kernel.org, developers can still collaborate using the same process (email review) and put out a release that can be verified for authenticity by its digital signature.
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@Conan_Kudo @vincent @marcan @jacksonchen666 SMTP is not the only channel for passing around RFC2822 messages, though. However, it remains the only widely used distributed protocol for doing so.
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@Conan_Kudo @vincent @marcan @jacksonchen666 a single point of failure platform is also not really acceptable. Imagine that you're sitting on a zero-day exploit of the Linux kernel and you want to prevent a fix from going out. Knocking out the central code management system is the logical move.
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@marcan @Conan_Kudo @jacksonchen666 how do we manage to both provide a better workflow *and* avoid lock-in into an open-core tool like gitlab?
(I'm not trying to be contrary, this is literally my worry.)
(I'm not trying to be contrary, this is literally my worry.)
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@sjvn @jamesbelchamber @mattdm @jbowen Thankfully, I’m not a maintainer. :) The best way to describe what I do is “keeper of keys and grounds,” like Hagrid.
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Linux Security Summit 🐧
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📣 The CfP for the 2023 Linux Security Summit North America is now open! 📣
See: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/linux-security-summit-north-america/program/cfp/
LSS-NA 2023 will be held in Vancouver, BC, Canada from May 10-12.
CfP submissions are open until March 1st!
#linux #linuxsecuritysummit #linuxfoundation #security #infosec
See: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/linux-security-summit-north-america/program/cfp/
LSS-NA 2023 will be held in Vancouver, BC, Canada from May 10-12.
CfP submissions are open until March 1st!
#linux #linuxsecuritysummit #linuxfoundation #security #infosec
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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Neat discovery of the day -- tut version 2.0.x will now properly auto-refresh content from social.kernel.org.
Try it out if you haven't for a while.
https://github.com/RasmusLindroth/tut
Try it out if you haven't for a while.
https://github.com/RasmusLindroth/tut
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@jamesbelchamber @mattdm @jbowen @sjvn I guess you could say that when it comes to the Linux kernel development world, I *am* kind of its secretary. :)
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@sjvn @mattdm @jbowen This is the great lie of the GTD method. "If it takes less than 5 minutes to do it, do it right away" means all emails that take more than 5 minutes to handle just pile up throughout the day to the point where I have no mental coherence left to deal with them.
So, you either get stuff from me within minutes, or you may not hear from me ever again until you re-prod me.
:)
or :(
or :'/
So, you either get stuff from me within minutes, or you may not hear from me ever again until you re-prod me.
:)
or :(
or :'/
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@mattdm People tend to get grumpy when I do that. Don't know why.
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@shenki @meso I am convinced that wikis don't make sense for most online documentation, and Mediawikis least of all. If someone is still convinced that they need a wiki these days, they are likely just going through some mental checklist that hasn't changed since 2005.
An actual documentation management platform like RTD that is backed by a git repository makes so much more sense. Plus maybe a Q&A platform. Not a wiki.
An actual documentation management platform like RTD that is backed by a git repository makes so much more sense. Plus maybe a Q&A platform. Not a wiki.
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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@meso That was the project's decision. https://lore.kernel.org/git/20230203182255.lqla3hsme6riy4w7@meerkat.local/t/#u
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K. Ryabitsev-Prime 🍁
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Lots of wikis got murdered today, including git.wiki.kernel.org. The remaining mediawikis are actually used and I can't just murder them outright. :)
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