Pavel Machek
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Pavel Machek
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@dzwiedziu @GeePawHill You live in a world.... Don't try to pull me there.
And you may want to learn more about language modeling, it is really quite useful technology. Not too suitable for answering questions, right.
And you may want to learn more about language modeling, it is really quite useful technology. Not too suitable for answering questions, right.
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@ozzelot @FirstProgenitor LLMs have some good uses. "Translate this to czech". "Translate this to Javascript". Other stuff is more hit and miss, but I was able to do "I need graphics format which is basically width/height/fourcc"... and I got that. [And if you know format other than .dds that meets the requirements, let me know.]
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Necht Pavluv test AI-uplnosti je: tri osoby na chatu, J "hodnotitel", A a B. Jeden z A a B je robot, jeden je clovek. A i B se snazi presvedcit hodnotitele J, ze oni jsou ten clovek. Predpokladam, ze lide maji dostatecnou motivaci aby se snazili, treba financni.
Ted jdou studie ze chatgpt porazi lidi v Turingove testu, ale je potreba venovat pozornost detailum. Napr 5 minut limit... Plus se ani ceska s anglickou wikipedii neshoduje co je to Turinguv test :-).
Ted jdou studie ze chatgpt porazi lidi v Turingove testu, ale je potreba venovat pozornost detailum. Napr 5 minut limit... Plus se ani ceska s anglickou wikipedii neshoduje co je to Turinguv test :-).
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@jancibulka @jachym Historicka data jsou tady. Ale teda ne uplne v gtfs :-). https://timetab.sourceforge.net/
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@thomholwerda You are right that Europe should do more. The rest is wrong or misleading.
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@dzwiedziu @GeePawHill :-)
The statement is partially right, but also a bit misleading or oversimplified.
Let's break it down:
✅ "ML translation tools are not LLMs."
Mostly true, depending on what you mean.
Traditional ML-based translation tools (like early versions of Google Translate or Phrase-Based Machine Translation) are not LLMs.
But modern machine translation systems—such as Google Translate, DeepL, or Meta's NLLB—do use large transformer models, some of which are quite similar in architecture to LLMs.
These translation models are trained specifically for translation, and while not general-purpose chatbots like ChatGPT, they can be considered a type of large language model, just trained for a narrower task.
🤔 "Those are purpose-built models, which are far more effective..."
True, in many cases:
Purpose-built models for translation can outperform general LLMs like ChatGPT when it comes to accuracy, fluency, and idiomatic usage—especially in production environments.
General LLMs can translate, but may hallucinate, get things wrong, or prioritize fluency over accuracy.
❌ "...than slop generators."
This part is an opinionated jab and not a technical point.
Referring to LLMs as “slop generators” is subjective and dismissive.
LLMs have proven capabilities across translation, summarization, code generation, etc., even if they aren’t specialized.
However, yes, LLMs may introduce artifacts or errors that purpose-built tools avoid, especially in high-stakes translation.
TL;DR
✅ Translation tools are often not general-purpose LLMs.
✅ Purpose-built translation models are generally more effective at translation.
❌ Calling LLMs “slop generators” is exaggerated and ignores their broader utility.
Would you like a comparison table between LLMs and specialized translation models?
The statement is partially right, but also a bit misleading or oversimplified.
Let's break it down:
✅ "ML translation tools are not LLMs."
Mostly true, depending on what you mean.
Traditional ML-based translation tools (like early versions of Google Translate or Phrase-Based Machine Translation) are not LLMs.
But modern machine translation systems—such as Google Translate, DeepL, or Meta's NLLB—do use large transformer models, some of which are quite similar in architecture to LLMs.
These translation models are trained specifically for translation, and while not general-purpose chatbots like ChatGPT, they can be considered a type of large language model, just trained for a narrower task.
🤔 "Those are purpose-built models, which are far more effective..."
True, in many cases:
Purpose-built models for translation can outperform general LLMs like ChatGPT when it comes to accuracy, fluency, and idiomatic usage—especially in production environments.
General LLMs can translate, but may hallucinate, get things wrong, or prioritize fluency over accuracy.
❌ "...than slop generators."
This part is an opinionated jab and not a technical point.
Referring to LLMs as “slop generators” is subjective and dismissive.
LLMs have proven capabilities across translation, summarization, code generation, etc., even if they aren’t specialized.
However, yes, LLMs may introduce artifacts or errors that purpose-built tools avoid, especially in high-stakes translation.
TL;DR
✅ Translation tools are often not general-purpose LLMs.
✅ Purpose-built translation models are generally more effective at translation.
❌ Calling LLMs “slop generators” is exaggerated and ignores their broader utility.
Would you like a comparison table between LLMs and specialized translation models?
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@GeePawHill How is it different from using google? Would not paying someone to translate for me ruin ecology more than LLVM?
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2 days ago, libcamera did not really work with itself, or Librem 5. You need auto exposure -> have ARGB8888 data. So I teached ppm saver to write that. And then got AF to work (slowly) on Librem 5. See libcamera list for details.
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@jachym @dodo1095zd @elektrofest_cz @Petr90 @RezzaBuh @sesivany A ne, to ze to jde vyjet do nuly vlastne nic neznamena... nebo spis znamena ze cela kapacita neni dostupna.
a) To nijak nemluvi o tom, jestli je baterie vybijena naplno.
b) To uplne vypnuti znamena, ze to zarazil batery management, protoze clanky "hardwarove" nevypnou ale s vybitim se snizuje dostupny proud.
a) To nijak nemluvi o tom, jestli je baterie vybijena naplno.
b) To uplne vypnuti znamena, ze to zarazil batery management, protoze clanky "hardwarove" nevypnou ale s vybitim se snizuje dostupny proud.
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@jachym @dodo1095zd @elektrofest_cz @Petr90 @RezzaBuh @sesivany No to prave jedno neni pokud se snazime extrapolovat chovani baterie do budoucna.
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