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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

So, this is fun, but it really chews through your ChatGPT credits. :`)

I'm working on b4 "code review" mode (grab a series, apply it to your tree, review every patch, send all your acked-by's, reviewed-by's, and individual comments as a one lump batch at the end of your review). The reason I'm playing with this is to see if we can plug in some AI pre-analysis and discussion summaries before the reviewer starts their work.
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vbabka

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@monsieuricon what a ruined April fools opportunity to post that today?
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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

Reply to @vbabka
@vbabka Ha! :) I'm serious about the "summarize the reactions of follow-up reviewers," because this is what ChatGPT is actually okay at. But it may be too expensive to bother.
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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

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@vbabka Here it is with just reaction summaries. Tell me this wouldn't be useful to see before you're looking at a patch series?
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vbabka

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@monsieuricon hmm maybe, depends on how much it would be hallucinating misleading stuff :)
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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

Reply to @vbabka
@vbabka One thing I'm not hallucinating is the "billed usage" chart, for sure. I spent $5 today just playing with a dozen or so series. Trimming message headers helps a bit, but this still chews up a ton of API tokens.
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corbet

Jonathan Corbet

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@monsieuricon @vbabka Sigh, I guess nobody will need @LWN anymore...
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conor

Conor Dooley

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@monsieuricon @vbabka ngl, reading that it makes me want a "b4 summarise v(N-1) -P <whatever is the dt-binding patch>!
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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

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@corbet @LWN @vbabka the value of LWN is not in summarizing random threads, but in summarizing *interesting* threads. I'll take your expertise in figuring out what those are over any automatic tool. :)

I see the value of ChatGPT here in summarizing dreadfully dull threads without worrying that it will burn out and ragequit.
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ljrk@todon.eu

lj·rk

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@monsieuricon @LWN @corbet @vbabka Also: Adding interesting context you might not know when just reading this thread, contextualising etc. -- but I don't wanna explain jons job to him, I just love the incredibly high quality of LWN. Thank you all :3

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broonie@mastodon.social

broonie

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@monsieuricon @vbabka I think one thing that would be really valuable in this area is “what are the people in this huge subthread arguing about?” and ideally “is it going anywhere?” but especially the second bit is hard and I’m not sure I’d trust AI. Or possibly spotting unusual review activity…

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monsieuricon

K. Ryabitsev 🍁

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@broonie @vbabka it's going to be an interesting trade-off between cost and convenience. Tokenizing huge threads costs quite a bit of money, but if it helps save time for maintainers, then it's a worthy trade-off. I will probably take a stab at incorporating this into the review workflow, but it will require some careful planning, including making sure that we don't lose the context of the tokenized discussion in case the developer wants to add to the prompt -- because we for sure don't want to re-tokenize the same huge thread and waste another bunch of money and cycles.
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palmer

Palmer Dabbelt

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@monsieuricon @broonie @vbabka IMO it's worth trying. One of my big issues is when someone keeps submitting patches, ignores core review feedback, and then just tires people out. Even just having a "this guy said your patch is totally broken and you ignored it 10 revisions ago to tire them out" blast when merging something would be awesome.

So it's not like I'd expect GPT to get everything, just to get ahead of the bad actors.
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lkundrak@metalhead.club

printf of persia 🇺🇦🇨🇿✌️🌻

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@vbabka @monsieuricon then you'll just do the usual and review what the llm generated. review the review and that way it only adds a little extra work!

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broonie@mastodon.social

broonie

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@palmer @monsieuricon @vbabka That’s the sort of stuff I have form letters for. There is one guy I got sufficiently frustrated with to simply stop sending him review comments but mostly it works.

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palmer

Palmer Dabbelt

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@broonie @monsieuricon @vbabka The problem on my end is that I don't always follow the previous versions of patch sets, particularly when a patch set touches multiple trees. So I try to go poke around the history to make sure nothing got missed, but that's a manual process and I tend to screw stuff like that up.
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broonie@mastodon.social

broonie

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@palmer @monsieuricon @vbabka I simply don’t worry too much about what was going on with prior versions if I can’t immediately remember and review new versions afresh most of the time. I only go looking at changes if it’s something obvious that it feels like the submitter must be ignoring comments on, or if I otherwise remember something to check up on.

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