Your boat hits a rock and sinks near an island. You swim to it, save your life, and find four laptops there with #Linux preinstalled. Which one do you pick?

But hurry! Other people are swimming behind you, and in a couple of seconds, there may be fewer than four choices remaining!

@darth I mentally prepare myself to drown, with my hand protended to the skies while I gaggle my last words: "I use Arch, BTW"

@innkeeper

@darth I'd pick whatever local aborigines use, which is probably Slackware.

@darth almost picked red hat, hesitated a little, then went with debian because the package collection would be larger and non enterprise-y features likely to be enabled.

but then i realized people who chose gentoo are guaranteed to have a complete and well tested toolchain and tons of source code cached. you clever fucks!!!

@oleksandr best reply so far!

@darth @oleksandr What? Darth ŠČ? Not Darth Щ?

@ptesarik @darth Щлакваре

@oleksandr @darth Якщо що,
Щлеквер!

@darth While Slackware might not be optimal laptop distro for cool kids it probably is the distro that would handle offline circumstances the best. I guess it doesn't matter too much since all the laptops run out of battery pretty fast and in that regard Slackware might run out the fastest.

@Gizamaluke I forgot about electricity, my bad.

@Gizamaluke @darth offline circumstances are the best

@ptesarik @darth May I ask if sir also reads "queue" as к'ю, not куеуе? If so, sir is very posh.

@oleksandr @darth Oh, did you write it the way you read it? So, it sounds like Shchluckvurrah? Oh my… I prefer to be posh.
фак'ю

@ptesarik @oleksandr it is ŠČ! from Croatian song Mama ŠČ! :)

https://youtu.be/AyKj8jA0Qoc

@darth @oleksandr thank you! that explains it

@ptesarik @darth @oleksandr i got to confess i was also quick to pass a judgement and suspected gentleman must be misguided to think that šč is a letter. apologies!

@lkundrak @ptesarik @oleksandr don't worry about it, my Slav friends.

I was thinking these days to start learning other Slavic languages, but I can't decide which one first. Russian and Polish are on top of my list.

Which are your native languages? Hammer has flags Czech and Slovak flags in his intro post, so that might be my answer. Petr I cannot attempt to guess.

@darth @lkundrak @ptesarik Kill me if I ever suggest anyone learn Muscovian.

@darth @lkundrak @ptesarik But in fact this is what happens in real life: you learn Muscovian, then Muscovites declare you to be a part of their world, then they come to "liberate" you aka kill.

@oleksandr @darth @ptesarik yeah, learn polish. poland is large, lots of poles all around the world, works of culture are of higher quality, uses latin, and most importantly there's no ongoing supremacism epidemic among polish speakers.

(to be clear, i'm not suggesting language is to blame or indicative of anything. some of people i respect the most are russian speakers)

@lkundrak @oleksandr @ptesarik same here. I don't want to touch on wars topics.

“The more languages you know, the more of a person you are” - do you know that one?

Anyways, a good person is a good person, no matter where they come from or which language they speak. And I can't tell you how I love it when I am in a foreign country and someone tries to speak a little bit of my language. Very warm in my heart.

@darth @lkundrak @oleksandr My mother tongue is Czech, but if you want to try a Slav language, consider Slovak, because that language is somewhat understandable by other Slavs. It is sometimes dubbed “Slavic Esperanto”,

@darth @lkundrak @ptesarik But I will of course touch the war topic since I'm asked directly.

@darth @oleksandr @ptesarik everybody should be touching on these topics! there's entire large nation that has been brainwashed and desensitized towards suffering of others to the point it does not mind committing unthinkable atrocities. it is fueled by casual everyday supremacy, and if you've talked to a common russian person chances are you've noticed it. culture plays a major roles here and "protection of russian speakers" has been used as a pretext. i think that needs *some* sort of pushback, though not necessary picking on individuals who didn't choose their language.

@ptesarik @darth @oleksandr i can confirm. both western and eastern slovaks tend to be able to force themselves to speak slovak, even though they ordinarily wouldn't understand each other

@lkundrak @ptesarik @darth Espe-čočo?

@lkundrak @oleksandr @ptesarik tell me what can I do to make this world a better place?

@darth @lkundrak @ptesarik Donate to AFU, of course.

@oleksandr @lkundrak @ptesarik I am very (negatively) sensitive to any form of killings. Serbia took 5 years of my childhood with unnecesarry war in 1991. I wish people would say no when called to war (both sides).

@darth @lkundrak @ptesarik Sure, let Muscovian forces leave Ukrainian ground, and I'm all for stopping any form of killings and saying "no" to war.

@darth @oleksandr @ptesarik my country didn't pick up the arms when it was invaded twice, because it would've been too powerless to defend itself.

first time the invader started the largest systematic torture and cleansing of country's most vulnerable minorities who posed no danger to anybody. then turned the country into a giant arms factory, its citizens into slaves working there, and went on attacking the other neighbours with a larger force. the whole insanity stopped only after incredible damage has been done, by those who didn't say no when called to war.

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@darth @oleksandr @ptesarik the second time they merely shot a couple of people, stayed for a quarter of century and robbed whole generation of chance of a dignified life.

there's every reason to believe what is going on in this case is the former. the fuhrer's language, the value system, the system of state propaganda are precisely the same.

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@oleksandr @darth @ptesarik yes, stand firmly on the side of those who are not voluntarily part of this.

@lkundrak @oleksandr @ptesarik when I proposed saying no I meant the invading people primarily. Once the killing begins it is difficult to stop it. Blood boils, pride rules reason, songs are being made that call to violence..

To be honest, as I grew up through the war, I fully thought that would be the end of it. No other countries will be as stupid as Serbia and Croatia in the future. Yet here we are, once again motherfuckers are cooking shit.

@darth @oleksandr @ptesarik i got you wrong then. my bad.

i've been blessed to see things just get better my whole life, causing unreasonable levels of optimism. i'm struggling to wrap my head around the mechanisms behind these explosions of hatred, violence and indifference because i've been convinced they're a total taboo and a thing of the past (oh yes, fuck you steven pinker)

@lkundrak @darth @oleksandr To je taký umelý jazyk, čo kedysi vynašli na prehnitom západe.

@ljs @oleksandr @lkundrak @darth THIS APE CONTAINS NO DETECTABLE TRACES OF GREY MATTER OR OTHER SKULL FILLING
#certifid #fishskowl

@ptesarik @ljs @oleksandr @lkundrak oh fuck it, I am going to follow both. the more Slavs on my timeline the better.

@ljs @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak honorary Slav works too.

@ptesarik @lkundrak @oleksandr razumio sam sve osim "prehnitom"

@darth @lkundrak @oleksandr POKVARENI zapad

@ptesarik @ljs @oleksandr @darth *high four*

@ljs @oleksandr @lkundrak @darth high … many, because I can't remember all my fingers

@ljs @oleksandr @lkundrak @darth if you're nasty to me, I'll lift my kilt and moon at you
*shriek* *shriek*

@ptesarik @ljs @oleksandr @darth gentlemen

has this thread dérailleur again??

@ljs @oleksandr @lkundrak @darth @vbabka who was not even tagged?
*brachiates away*

@ljs @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @vbabka I just re-read the whole thread and it appears to be on track, still. Carry on.

@ljs @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @vbabka fish satan can't even read more than two posts and remember the third one

@ljs @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @vbabka

@ljs @oleksandr @ptesarik @darth @vbabka tags

tags

*remembers that one encounter with the cache architecture dude*

*thousand mile stare*

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @darth @ljs link! link!

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @darth @ljs > it's all obsolete anyway :(
aren't we all :(

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @darth @ljs got it, thanks!

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @darth @ljs Obsolete is too aggressive. More for historical reference?

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @darth @ljs perhaps they paid attention in the cache organization classes!

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @darth @ljs the real mind-blown moment for me was when properly understanding the pLRU algorithm meant you could construct a memory access pattern that "amplifies the timing signal" of a cache miss, so that depending on whether a particular memory access is a miss or a hit, a bunch of subsequent accesses will also turn into misses or hits, and so the overall timing signal will be bigger:
https://security.googleblog.com/2021/03/a-spectre-proof-of-concept-for-spectre.html
https://leaky.page/plru.html

@vbabka @oleksandr @ptesarik @lkundrak @darth @ljs (that second link goes to a nice demo website that shows you a simulation of how the pLRU behaves during the attack)

Okay, so I got 114 votes here which is pretty good for someone with 1k followers. Meanwhile I did a test on Twitter to measure the usefulness of that website and I am not sure what to think of this result?

@darth depends. If the RedHat has MAGA written on it…

@root42 don't know, I live in the EU :)