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@ljs I dunno if I mentioned it, but kinda follows from the leverage stuff - the angle of the incline can make a big difference, the ratio would vary.

> Nice numbers btw

It's a long time since I did barbell incline, so I had to look back at my logs to get a ratio, I don't do those numbers at the moment, but hopefully I'll be back there soon... GL with the 100! :)
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@sven @ljs Yeah, if you've got the spare depth (or fine enough safety increments) to place the safeties where you can just get lower and out it's the best option for sure.
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@ljs @sven maybe the order of my replies was confusing, but that was a reply to the bit about a fail that caused me to lose a lot of confidence.
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@ljs @sven idk, if you can bolt it down you probably should...
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@ljs @sven /do not/ practice doing that, failing that way was not something I ever want to do again. Failing by going really deep so that bar lands on the safeties or the hop forward are the way to go, what's in that video hurt my shoulder and I never wanna do it again.
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@sven @ljs heh, I found a video. Was a max attempt at like 2.25x bodyweight at time time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxdyN5i5JtQ
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@ljs @sven This is a pretty good example of the latter method: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bC1JV4iSsjA
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@ljs @sven If your safeties are high enough, yup. If not, you just push your elbows & chest forward and kinda hop out as it falls off your shoulders.
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@ljs @sven the bench you have though is pretty nice, most benches in gyms don't even have safeties
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@ljs @sven

> Safety arms help but the abort is still fucking horrible anyway.

I used to be a lot more cavalier about it, now I refuse to squat without them. The normal abort of dropping the bar backwards is something you can practice if you're worried, it's a good confidence builder :)
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@ljs @sven different leverages make a huge difference, the weights on a lot of machines for the same exercise are hard to compare - but 30 kg does seem like a lot.
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@sven @ljs

> for squatting 130kg I just lack the strength at the very bottom to get out of the hole again.

Could always cheat and buy sleeves!

> It’s always been my least favorite exercise as well which doesn’t help.

Used to be my favourite, always had lots of confidence in being able to get out of the hole or bail safely. Failed one forward a few years ago and lost all of it :/ Definitely a scarier exercise as you push the weight.
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@sven @ljs Personally I find that the height of the bench makes a massive difference, worst thing about new equipment or gyms!
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@ljs > Also my incline smith machine press is fucking 45kg? WHAT?

I dunno, incline is a harder exercise. It uses your shoulder muscles not just your chest. When I was benching 130 my incline was only around 100.
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@ljs

> but in 'theory' it's meant to be the same muscle group right?

Ye it is, but it's kinda akin to trying to stand up and stand up on a tightrope.
Also, some of those machines don't have linear loading, so the same number of plates doesn't mean the same effort is required.
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@ljs Oh right, ye that's gonna be totally different! One is purely isolated, but benching requires stablisation of the weight and that takes a significant portion of your strength.
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@ljs "105kg seated press" - seated press to me usually means a shoulder exercise with dumbbells. Do you mean some sort of thing with a machine, or a free weight exercise?
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@sven @ljs I've always found that bench can be pretty finicky. Grip width, where you bring the bar down to on your chest, elbow flaring and the height of the bench all make a pretty significant impact to how much you can move.
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@charmcli think I found out about gum from an @gregkh tweet: https://x.com/gregkh/status/1577276199574831105, it's a super useful program, feel like every automation script I write uses it since I found it.
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