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(2/4) "You are holding it wrong!" - Greg Kroah-Hartman

How do you actually get these cursed LLM tools to produce a valid bugfix from a bug report? Greg's talk is hands-on, not theoretical - what works, what doesn't, and why most people are doing it wrong. Some ongoing legal discussions are expected to wrap up by September, which may let him speak even more openly on the topic going forward, so this could just be the first chapter.

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'Untrusted data in Linux — How Rust is going to save us' by Greg Kroah-Hartman at RustWeek 2026!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzmj7K0FNRY&list=PL8Q1w7Ff68DBpmF38rcIAf8Z9Gj2TnlgM&index=11

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As every year, Kernel Recipes is running its charity auctions!

This year, we wanted to shine again a spotlight on the work of the @conservancy. @bkuhn will be speaking on the topic on September 22nd, right before the auctions kick off.

Registration for the conference is now open: https://www.billetweb.fr/kernel-recipes-2026

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The project will not accept or otherwise handle any vulnerability reports during the month of July 2026. We call it the curl summer of bliss.

https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2026/06/15/curl-summer-of-bliss/

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@caoimhin @monsieuricon That is probably due to me not sending all of the stable -rc changes to lkml anymore :)
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We are honored to announce the @netdevconf 0x1A keynote speaker @gregkh !

@gregkh will discuss the ongoing LLM challenges and the kernel security process.
Come hear and learn and interact to provide feedback to @gregkh

https://netdevconf.info/0x1A/sessions/keynote/llms-and-the-kernel-security-process.html

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Assisted-by: GNU sed 4.9 <sed@gnu.org>

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New live episode of Rust in Production and it's a special one! 🥁

Recorded on stage at Rust Week in Utrecht with two people shaping the future of the Linux kernel:

🐧 Greg Kroah-Hartman (@gregkh ), Linux Foundation Fellow
⚙️ Alice Ryhl, core maintainer of Tokio, Rust for Linux at Google

▶️ https://corrode.dev/podcast/s06e04-rust4linux/

Huge thanks to the Rust Week crew for hosting this one. You're awesome! 🦀

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First talk of the day with Greg @gregkh KH to talk about Untrusted data in in Linux : How Rust is going to save us.

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I'm at the recording for the Rust In Production podcast on "Oxidizing the Linux Kernel" with Greg @gregkh KH, Alice Rhyl and Matthias @mre Endler.

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Will be on the "Rust in Production" live podcast in a few hours here at RustWeek:

https://2026.rustweek.org/schedule/tuesday/

Live streams of the conference:
https://www.youtube.com/@rustnederlandrustnl/streams

I think the podcast might be streamed here as well:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbWDhxwM_45lkJfL95zELDgO01mnrRQ6t
but don't really know...
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What is never? It's a Rust type that's pretty simple to define (not).

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@k From Keychron of course!
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New desktop addition, a "big button" to do a kernel release. Would have come in handy earlier today when I had to do a bunch of them ...
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More stable kernels with partial Dirty Frag fixes

https://lwn.net/Articles/1071483/

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"If Linux can be maintained by sending patches to an email mailing list, 'doesn’t work at scale' arguments are skill issues."
https://dbushell.com/2026/04/29/github-is-sinking/

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Hoshino Lina (星乃リナ) 🩵 3D Yuri Wedding 2026!!!

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Typical ML argument: "If I can read something legally, why can't I train an LLM on it?"

Humans are capable of reading things and later writing a similar thing that is still a copyright violation. If I go and write a book that follows the plot line of Star Wars, that's still a copyright violation, even if no text is literally the same. If I play the melody to a song on my piano and release it without the appropriate mechanical cover license, that's also a copyright violation.

The reason this does not happen often is that, as humans, we are aware that that's plagiarism and there are rules. Sometimes it happens by accident, and people still get sued and lose.

LLMs have no such awareness and routinely output things which are blatant copyright violations when appropriately prompted. That means the model weights encode that work, and therefore, are themselves a derivative work.

Your brain encodes a massive amount of copyrighted information. You are not a walking copyright violation because humans aren't data, can't be copied and distributed en masse, have human rights, etc. This is why "mind reading machines" are a classic dystopian plot point (monetizing your thoughts etc).

An LLM is not a human, does not have human rights, nor human privileges. It is data, and if it encodes copyrighted information, that's a derivative work. If you aren't following the license of the training data, that's a copyright violation.

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@dascandy everything graphed risks becoming a goal in itself, so I make sure we graph everything 😀

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@uecker @icing As is pointed, out, this is just a troll, but seriously, "worthy" isn't the issue. Again, you can not have one group "in" and one "out" without real reasons why anyone is "out".

And again, my point remains, "All early release lists leak like a sieve, otherwise why does your government allow it to exist."
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@uecker

I think I should be the only one on that list. I‘ll then notify the right people who can demonstrate their worthiness.😌

Wait! That‘s already anthropic‘s business idea. Damn.

@gregkh

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