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Edited 1 year ago

Ok, the fact that the "AI" (NPU) chip controller inside Intel's new Meteor Lake CPUs uses SPARC instruction set (from 1990?) was not on my bingo cards for this year. https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/04/22/intel-meteor-lakes-npu/

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Jarkko Sakkinen

never get bored to richard cheese :-) always gets you into good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMjvUzlohY
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Edited 1 year ago

@Andi Luckily I’ve recently tested SGX cgroups patches with Tumbleweed, i.e. know how to compile equivalent distro kernel (as it is made for OpenSUSE) for any possible kernel tree :-) So can easily try this out once the bandwidth is available.

It is maybe even easier than Ubuntu kernel (which has been easiest so far):

./scripts/install-git-hooks # not sure whether this is really required
./scripts/tar-up.sh 
export LINUX_GIT=~/work/linux-tpmdd # clean clone swithed to branch of your choice
./scripts/osc_wrapper kernel-source/kernel-default.spec

The packages land to /var/tmp/build-root/standard-x86_64/home/abuild/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64. And obviously needs to be signed with a MOK key if secure boot is turned on.

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@Andi Luckily I've recently tested SGX cgroups patches with Tumbleweed, i.e. know how to compile equivalent distro kernel (as it is made for OpenSUSE) for any possible kernel tree :-) So can easily try this out once the bandwidth is available.
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Edited 1 year ago
@jani @timojyrinki that said prefixes do have measurable benefits for a developer! :-)

e.g. if have such prefix missing from some function that i maintain and i get a patch with that rationale, i most likely ack it despite being somewhat cosmetic change.
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@jani @timojyrinki yeah sorry for mentioned that. i can admit that being irritated it just spotted my attention and ofc i went to complain about it here in social media :-) apologies!
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Edited 1 year ago
@timojyrinki @vbabka there is some problem with sign on in SUSE sites. i've never been able to log in to that bugzilla. I've emailed to admins but they never have answered.

There was some other bug that I even fixed in OpenSUSE installation but I cannot remember what it was :-) I reported it here to mastodon only. I need to look that one up too if I ever get access to that bugzilla.
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Edited 1 year ago
@Andi I can try it once I have bandwidth. Thanks for tip!
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@jani the breaking point doing something to this was after watching fallout pilot and wanting to start playing fallout 3 one again (with latest graphics mods) ;-) fallout made me do it
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@jani fair enough :-) i'll do as good report as I possibly can and submit it...
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@jani OK fair enough since both you and timo try to put me to fill out web form I will do it although it feels like torture :-)

I'll still look through kernel tree first see what I can find...
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@timojyrinki yeah i look up now to kernel tree, dig up all info that i possibly can and then post to LKML :-) and thanks for XE driver tip! i'll try it but i still look up first if i can find something nasty in i915 driver.

If XE driver is a fix, then this is also tumbleweed bug, ain't it @vbabka ?
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Edited 1 year ago
@timojyrinki I use only LKML if I decide to post anything. I hate bug trackers, sorry :-) it is a kernel bug so LKML is way to go. Going to ignore web forms for sure.
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GPU HANG is emitted by error_msg. Would be better of by being i915_error_msg or i915_error for easier grepping and inserting probes and this also supports it:

$ git grep error_msg|wc -l
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@timojyrinki unrelated side-note, i don’t undestand why people put this cruft to new code in kernel:

 * Authors:
 *    Eric Anholt <eric@anholt.net>
 *    Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>
 *    Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@intel.com>

Nobody cares as Git has author field. Totally useless information.

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@timojyrinki yeah, i'll start to grep kernel tree, and see where the messages emit.
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Edited 1 year ago
@timojyrinki ya, switching to AMD is not an option ;-) And as said CPU has caused zero issues so far. Not like by ideology but do not want to spend moneyz.

Still a major turndown, i.e. owning a GPU that cannot do graphics.
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Edited 1 year ago
@timojyrinki i'm happy intel alumni but unhappy intel customer :-) does not match my quality expectations tbh.
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Edited 1 year ago
@timojyrinki let me remind that this happens neither with RTX nor with CPU heavy tasks such as compilation.

another different kind of workload where this does not happen is Bitwig Studio. So this is directly connected to this graphics card way or another.

I disabled upscaling (i.e. intel_pstate) but have not yet tried also disabling downscaling, which could be good test perhaps.
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