@chimbosonic I remember X230 because it was like the last ever properly built X-series laptop with TWO SO-DIMM slots (no fused memory chips). Makes me sad to hear about that model, or how crap hardware has become after it ;-)

@chimbosonic yeah I was thinking about setting up sccache and should do that. Its inspiration ccache is already a time saver when compiling BuildRoot images.

Sorry, I just like to exaggerate things, can't help with bad humor ;-)

@ikkeT @kernellogger This is why I moved from Ubuntu to Fedora basically. Most of kernel developers I know use it, and most tools I use are also used by other kernel developers :-) For instance I recently reported an mbsync bug with a quick response time because it is quite popular among kernel developers.

I realized today that in order to compile Rust projects you need a ThreadRipper and also my colleague said this to me. A basic laptops literally melts when compiling Rust ;-) It's a programming language that is free but requires 2k - 12k EUR CPU to build anything reasonable.

My colleague also said that as bonus it helps to keep your house warm so I guess it is shopping time...

#rust

@ikkeT @kernellogger BTW now is my ark kernel moment, or to try out the cool scripts you made once the patch is available.

Exactly kind of bug where you feel more confident to give tested-by when you see how the fix flies in distribution (alike) kernel.

@ikkeT done https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323992

I'd probably fix this myself if I had extra bandwidth given how good oops transcripts this gave (despite somewhat alien subsystem). Happy to test the patch tho if/when it is available.

Unfortunately I'm busy compiling huge Rust project that is melting my laptop ATM ;-) Someone else gets the fun part...

@ikkeT done https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2323992

I'd probably fix this myself if I had extra bandwidth given how good oops transcripts this gave (despite somewhat alien subsystem). Happy to test the patch tho if/when it is available.

Unfortunately I'm busy compiling huge Rust project that is melting my laptop ATM ;-) Someone else gets the fun part...

@ljs If "threadirqs" is enabled in the kernel-command line and rtirq is enabled by systemctl, then "ps -T -o comm,policy,rtprio -p $(pgrep -w -d ',' irq) | egrep '(snd|hci)'" this should give priority 90 for sound cards and USB HCI's after the boot (default is 50). It help for instance in that when you compile a huge project during a meeting, audio does not chop ;-) Should be really part of default installation IMHO despite the little that it does (just reconfigures priorities).

I'll see if I can build RPM myself given that there is a spec file apparently :-) https://github.com/rncbc/rtirq

@ikkeT debugging wifi issues requires motivation because each test requires reboot ;-)

@ljs duh

This is unfortunate :-/ E.g. main #Fedora repositories don't have rtirq package.

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

@Conan_Kudo @hopland @tbernard @vascorsd They said that GPL or even LGPL is "communist code". What actually has realized is that it is best possible way for e.g. a company be open source and at the same protect their IP rights in the current hostile environments with AI's and bots lurking every corner ;-)

@Conan_Kudo @hopland @vascorsd @tbernard I think commercially copyleft is the next thing growing up. Signal showed how AGPL can be turned into profitable business in an end user product and its governance properties tackle AI threats nicely.

On the other hand AI literally assrapes MIT/Apache code. IMHO Qt licensing is today even more optimal than it was maybe few years back.

@josh @osi I'm not sure what was the point of time when open source turned into individuals inventing great things together (or to be totally honest sometimes having a huge flame wars together) into companies making these weird announcements together.

I mean for instance Linux Foundation seems to have almost at least bi-monthly announcement where they say how they are driving innovation in whatever is the hot topic of the day accompanied with endorsements with your "usual suspects" companies from IT, finance etc. business sectors. For me they have turned more like a joke than something I would ever consider to take seriously.

Recently I did "acid test" to LF to see if there is any real meat in these announcements when they launched https://www.lfdecentralizedtrust.org/. I thought that since I'm a long-time kernel maintainer in security and I also work for a company whose founder Gavin Wood literally invented smart contracts and coined up the term "Web3", I would be a great participant to the discussions or possible conference calls.

So I dropped email to their general inquiries address info@lfdecentralizedtrust.org. After three weeks my inbox has been silent :-) This was my expectation as I'm an individual not e.g. VISA. I'm not personally disappointed, but I'm disappointed because my hypothesis realized in this empirical experiment.

I have voting right in e.g. LF TAB elections but I do criticize Finnish politics sometimes too so I guess I can say this ;-) As LF puts it "decentralized innovation built on trust"...

@shertson If I had to do blind guess I'd guess ACPI tables but could be some other thing

@shertson i'll root cause the bug and send bug report to fedora bugzilla :-)

@timojyrinki i got it from company i formatted the hard drive without looking what is in ;-)

i need to debug this when have time, it's just so frustrating that this same issue always comes up with any new laptop ;-)

5️⃣ Here's the 5th installment of posts highlighting key new features of the upcoming v257 release of systemd.

Since its beginnings systemd was a heavy user of the D-Bus IPC system. It provides D-Bus APIs, it calls D-Bus APIs it schedules activation of the D-Bus broker, and even provides its own C D-Bus client library.

However, since early on our use of D-Bus was not without various major problems. One of the biggest goes something like this:

Hmm... X1 Thinkpad does not have Wifi after waking up from suspend in Fedora 41. #fedora