@phf kernel.org is managed by the Linux Foundation, but it's a separate legal entity. It didn't use to be managed by LF -- that changed in 2011 when the existing board of directors hired LF to manage the organization directly.

@jwildeboer ah, nice. Looks like that's an EU brand. I've been looking at some Brother embroidery machines to make scout patches, but haven't decided yet. :)

@jwildeboer which embroidery machine do you use?

New favourite word in Norwegian: ubeboelig

My mentions right now.

Every "why is English like that" question is answered simply by stating the obvious fact: modern English is an islander creole language that layers many waves of colonizations.

Remember Elon Musk's hyperloop project? Washingtonian's Matt Ribel breaks down where it all went wrong (spoiler: it was doomed from the start because no one had a clue what they were doing).

https://flip.it/Nc7apU

#ElonMusk #Technology #BoringProject #Hyperloop

@bengerman @wendynather don't forget `printf 'yolo' | dd of=/dev/sdX bs=4 seek=$RANDOM`

@hackillu A surprising number of services hardcode mirrors.kernel.org as the source where they can obtain packages for deployments. They really shouldn't, but they do. Last time there was an extended outage on our side, a lab technician from a major EU hospital emailed me to say that it broke their ability to use some kind of lab equipment because it somehow required downloading a perl package from our CPAN mirror.

Should we start occasionally breaking mirrors.kernel.org so that people identify and fix these dependencies? Maybe. But I'm slightly terrified of unintended consequences that may impact real people's lives.

@_bapt_ @renchap Sweet. Yes, I know I didn't follow up because I got busy, but now there's actually... uh... a lot more interest in having non-US hosting companies also being part of the offering. So, having a couple of nodes with OVH at various EU locations would be fantastic and satisfy a lot of demand (including tech sovereignty ones).

@_bapt_ @renchap Nous avons déjà beaucoup d'opportunités depuis que j'ai envoyé ce message. :) Mais, ce que j'aimerais bien avoir c'est un autre fournisseur européen que juste Akamai, spécifiquement pour les serveurs lore.kernel.org qui offre accès aux archives et messages des ML. Ça prends beaucoup moins de ressources qu'une node mirrors.kernel.org, mais offre beaucoup plus de bénéfices immediats.

@mhoye Sure, but as evidenced, they *are* actually giving something back to us -- so these are the good guys.

Let's get mad about all the 99.99% of free software contributors who have not received anything out of donating their time and expertise to the open source ecosystem.

@cks We have a couple of great offers already, so please don't worry about it for now. We do appreciate you thinking of us!

@jbowen @austinspires @mhoye Fastly is already doing a lot for us, for which we love them! However, they are not a great fit for mirrors.kernel.org. I do thank you for the suggestion, though!

@mhoye This post builds up a straw man just to set it on fire. The logos you posted are from companies that donate directly to kernel.org (not Linux Foundation). Kernel.org is a separate legal entity from Linux Foundation and is a registered charitable organization. Donating to kernel.org is tax deductible whereas contributing to the Linux Foundation isn't. These companies are gladly and willingly donating their resources to kernel.org specifically.

The companies supporting kernel.org operations are:

Akamai: provides free hosting to git.kernel.org and lore.kernel.org.
Constellix: provides free DNS hosting with failover and geoDNS.
Fastly: provides CDN services.
Servers.com: provides mirrors.kernel.org hosting (the two nodes that we currently have in operation).
Google: provides a git mirror at kernel.googlesource.com.
Red Hat: donates RHEL licenses.
Linux Foundation: employs staff operating kernel.org

The reason I'm asking for more hosting opportunities for mirrors.kernel.org is two-fold: it's a community service that hosts distros, and not so much the kernel. Providing mirroring opportunities for distros is not our primary charter -- we provide kernel archives, not distro binaries. However, we've operated mirrors.kernel.org for 30-odd years and if we stop running the service, parts of the Internet break (it's a fact). So, we continue operating it and will do so for the foreseeable future.

The second reason is because for many hosting companies it makes a lot of sense to donate hardware and bandwidth to a charitable organization like kernel.org -- for reasons of tax deductions and because it often benefits them directly (their own cloud hosting can then benefit from a tier-1 mirror in their datacentre). So, it makes commercial sense for them to donate to kernel.org as a tax write-off as opposed to for the Linux Foundation to pay for hosting, plus they get other perks, such as getting a bit of publicity, a good standing with fellow nerds, etc.

Your post is unnecessarily inflammatory and poorly informed.

@mhoye This post builds up a straw man just to set it on fire. The logos you posted are from companies that donate directly to kernel.org (not Linux Foundation). Kernel.org is a separate legal entity from Linux Foundation and is a registered charitable organization. Donating to kernel.org is tax deductible whereas contributing to the Linux Foundation isn't. These companies are gladly and willingly donating their resources to kernel.org specifically.

The companies supporting kernel.org operations are:

Akamai: provides free hosting to git.kernel.org and lore.kernel.org.
Constellix: provides free DNS hosting with failover and geoDNS.
Fastly: provides CDN services.
Servers.com: provides mirrors.kernel.org hosting (the two nodes that we currently have in operation).
Google: provides a git mirror at kernel.googlesource.com.
Red Hat: donates RHEL licenses.
Linux Foundation: employs staff operating kernel.org

The reason I'm asking for more hosting opportunities for mirrors.kernel.org is two-fold: it's a community service that hosts distros, and not so much the kernel. Providing mirroring opportunities for distros is not our primary charter -- we provide kernel archives, not distro binaries. However, we've operated mirrors.kernel.org for 30-odd years and if we stop running the service, parts of the Internet break (it's a fact). So, we continue operating it and will do so for the foreseeable future.

The second reason is because for many hosting companies it makes a lot of sense to donate hardware and bandwidth to a charitable organization like kernel.org -- for reasons of tax deductions and because it often benefits them directly (their own cloud hosting can then benefit from a tier-1 mirror in their datacentre). So, it makes commercial sense for them to donate to kernel.org as a tax write-off as opposed to for the Linux Foundation to pay for hosting, plus they get other perks, such as getting a bit of publicity, a good standing with fellow nerds, etc.

Your post is unnecessarily inflammatory and poorly informed.

mirrors.kernel.org is back from ded, but it will take up to 24 hours for all distros to catch up.

Aw, you worked so hard on that email opener, but this is how it reads in my head.

@thilo @cloudflare Akamai is already helping us with a bunch of other hosting, but for mirrors a hardware system with a specific drive configuration works best.

@mori that would be lovely, thanks! Even if we just have an option to use it as a failover in case of trouble (like today).