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Thorsten Leemhuis (acct. 1/4)

Edited 2 months ago

For fun and profit: after spotting the words and in a build config help text I had to check how often the sources still refer to themโ€ฆ

[edit] Updated screenshot fixing a bug (missing a "-i" in the global search; sorry!) [/edit]

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@kernellogger afaik slackware still uses lilo in the default install ;-)
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@kernellogger Say 'N' if unsure.

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@kernellogger LILO - all I remember after some mistake in my lilo.conf is a bootscreen full of 010101010101010... that required a live-system to recover from, since there was no interactive LILO shell.

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@eliasp @kernellogger probably LILILILI...

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@ptesarik @kernellogger # CONFIG_MMU is not set
cc @ljs @vbabka

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@lkundrak @ptesarik @kernellogger @vbabka christ don't even talk to me about that shit

Any arch that doesn't set CONFIG_MMU can set CONFIG_SELF_IMMOLATE_AND_DISAPPEAR also
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@ljs @kernellogger @lkundrak @vbabka And I was hoping to port Linux to MOS 6502 on day when I retire. Now, all hope is gone.

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@ljs @kernellogger @lkundrak @vbabka I'd rather set CONFIG_SELF_IMMOLATE_AND_DISAPPEAR on myself in that case.

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@ptesarik @kernellogger @lkundrak @vbabka your dedication is both sweet and deeply concerning

I hope I can convert this into beer somehow
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@pinganini @kernellogger I sort of get in the sense that it does a job if you don't need multi-boot and GRUB just adds extra cruft on top for dance moves that are never done on stage ;-) I've never used multi-boot so in that regard boot loaders do not really matter to me... Simpler is better I guess.
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@pinganini @kernellogger Actually since I don't claimed boot loader expert I've been silently wondering why I have a boot loader when the Linux is an EFI application ;-)

Like why it could not always be just shimx64.efi + linux.efi in a system with a single OS? I don't know the current existential reason for boot loaders in EFI environment so there could be something. I don't really care even about to ability to select snapshot. I boot with USB stick and fix the system instead ;-) Snapshots have limited granularity by fixing the issue I get better overall heal up.
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@kernellogger @pinganini [I don't even care about BTRFS to honest, complication without application as far as I'm concerned. Ext4 is better since it is simpler.]
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@gregkh @kernellogger @pinganini @jarkko yeah, if you're running a custom kernel build and don't need to manage any trust anchor for anything else, you can definitely just do this. Though it'd be nicer if you didn't have to build the initramfs /before/ the kernel.

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@vathpela @gregkh @kernellogger @pinganini right, I forgot the initramfs part :-) For test kernels I link it to vmlinux directly.

For distribution case there are obvious reasons not to do it like that (all the reasons to update it without changing kernel).
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Jarkko Sakkinen

Edited 2 months ago
@gregkh @kernellogger @pinganini Right! I've tried that with Tianocore and QEMU but never with actual hardware.

To be totally honest, for machines located at my own premises I don't have secure boot enabled at all :-) I've started to use TPM2 tho for those because it gives a lot of convenience for headless machine booting up with hard drive encryption enabled. Secure boot gives me really, umh, not much anything at all.
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@jarkko @kernellogger @pinganini @jarkko Yeah, nobody needs to know when their data is silently corrupted anyway. Better left a mystery. Or I guess use dm-integrity.

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