@mntmn Should we have a talk about system controller <-> CPU interface, so that we get something generic any reasonable manufacturer can use, and so that we limit amount of kernel drivers needed?

RGB888 in libcamera is same as BGR24 in SDL. Of course, RGB24 _and_ RGB888 exist in SDL, too... they are just different.

@q3k @redford @mrtick Wow. Jail time for the manufacturer? Sabotaging a product should not be okay :-(.

Outside, there's a heap of snow, and more is falling. It's not great for riding, so I opt for cross-country skis. At the last minute, I realize I don't have any snacks, so I grab two apples. I encounter a family, and they ask if I'm taking the horse for a ski ride. I say yes. A little later, we pass by them, and they mention they "expected the horse to pull me." Alright then, I grab onto the mane, and Zlutak starts trotting. They have to admit that it's pulling me, but half of the apple is gone. We repeat the exercise, and the other half of the apple disappears into the horse's mouth. I'll save the rest for the way back...

We turn around, and I probably won't need the lead anymore, so I turn it into a loop around its neck so I don't have to pull on the mane. Zlutak looks excited, so we go... Interestingly, he somehow manages to understand what I want from it, even when I'm pulling on the same piece of rope I'm trying to steer with. He's just clever. We stop with a verbal command, and it deserves a piece of apple... well, except the apple disappears entirely. For a moment, I consider that maybe he just wants to go home, so if I just stick to... but no, that would be unfair.

Now I have an excited horse and no snacks. I stand in front of him, and surprisingly... the horse seems to understand that the lesson is over and follows me without much fuss. Great!

Venku je kupa snehu, a dalsi pada. Na jezdeni to... no moc neni, tak beru bezky. Na posledni chvili si uvedomuju, ze nemam zadny pamlsky, tak beru aspon dve jablka. Potkavam nejakou rodinku, jestli pry beru kone z bezkama.. a ja ze jo. Za chvili jdem kolem nich, a ze pry "cekali ze kun potahne me". No tak jo, chytam se za hrivu a zlutej jde do klusu. Musi uznat ze me tahne, ale pul jablka je pryc. Opakujem cviceni, a v konovi mizi i druha pulka. Zbytek posetrim na cestu zpet...
Otacime to, a voditko uz nejspis nebudu potrebovat, tak z nej delam smycku okolo krku abych ho nemusel tahat za hrivu. A kun vypada nadsene, tak jedem... Zajimavy je, ze nejak zvlada poznat co po nem chci, a to i kdyz me tahne za stejnej kus spagatu kterym se snazim ridit. Je proste sikovnej. Zastavujem na slovni povel, zaslouzi si kus jablka ... no jenze jablko v nem mizi cely. Chvili uvazuju, ze on domu proste chce, takze kdyz se proste budu drzet... ale ne, to by bylo nefer.
Jenze ted mam nadsenyho kone a zadny pamlsky. Radim se pred nej a kupodivu... kun nejak pochopil ze to je konec lekce, a bez vetsiho spechu me nasleduje. Fajn!
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@rmader @linmob @dino So... how much are you willing to help? If have auto-exposure support for libcamera, the rest of the stuff should be relatively easy, but integration is definitely not...

@jmlich @cas Thank you. Jelly Star seems to be pretty powerfull phone in 121g package. https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/84665cda

@caleb
@cas I'd really like to see a small phone. Ideally something like Nokia 6230 -- less than 100g, can do calls, connect something else if you want to browse the web. Espruino + serial modem should do the trick. Can help with the software parts. Probably could hack together the boards, too, but case would be harder for me and this is really project for a group. (Currently using Geeksphone in this role).

Facebook's "give us your many or your personal data" choice seemed very wrong to me. I'm glad I was not the only one. https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/ekonomika-meta-celi-obvineni-ze-v-evrope-pouziva-nekale-obchodni-praktiky-240700

"Bad Apple" is like "Hello world" but with dancing girls. I need one for my watch.

The #Linux on #Mobile stand will be at #FOSDEM once again this year!

We're looking forward to showing off devices running #SailfishOS, #postmarketOS, #Mobian, #PureOS, #UBports, #Droidian and #CalyxOS as well as devices from #MNT Research.

What a line up!

Last year we got a phenomenal response. We're hoping this year will be even bigger and better.

https://www.flypig.co.uk/fosdem24-lom/

FOSDEM'24 is in Brussels 3-4 February 2024. Looking forward to seeing you there!

https://fosdem.org/2024/

Is it possible to run web server inside web browser with appropriate permissions? I'd like to do that on FirefoxOS.

@Precz @capyloon @postmarketOS Yep, that would be cool, but likely a way too much work. I'd be happy if it was possible to buy open phones of similar size, but...

@Precz @postmarketOS @capyloon Fun. I'm actually playing with FirefoxOs now. I got Geeksphone Keon, which I like because it is small. You may be able to get some hardware running FirefoxOS, either old one running original FirefoxOS, or something running KaiOS (spelling?).

@dos @martijnbraam @supertobi @nobodyinperson Enabling 10-bit with limited resolutions would be already good step forward. Actually, adding few more modes with full resolution and some crop may help with bandwidth, and would be useful for testing zoom.

RP2040 has a ROM. That was somehow expected. But software on the boad actually calls the ROM during runtime, because it would be shame to have unused space in 16KB ROM. Wow, I did not expect that one.

@martijnbraam Basic AF is really not that hard. Doing it well, debugging it under all conditions and optimizing it for focus speed would make it way more interesting.

Got qemu to emulate Original Espruino. That was easy but rp2040 may be a lot (or too much) work. https://gitlab.com/tui/qemu/-/tree/devel?ref_type=heads

@martijnbraam Yep, i2cset in millipixels .... is not a way to go. I believe I was not the one to do that particular hack. There's ton of work everywhere around the cameras :-(. BTW word of warning, the AF is actually the hard part, because it is time-critical, the rest should be easy in comparison.

I believe rp2040 needs to be supported by qemu... but this is my first encounter with qemu. Hints would be welcome. I can't believe I'm first one to need it.