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Filip Piekniewski
filippie509@techhub.social
I know every tech bro will squeak like a seal now, but just to keep things in perspective, on:
- 6'th flight Saturn V took man to the Moon 55y ago
- but but it wasn't reusable!
- 6'th flight space shuttle took a crew of 4 on a 5d mission, landed safely in Edwards base 41y ago
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Filip Piekniewski
filippie509@techhub.socialI understand people getting excited by SpaceX, I really do. Rocketry is extreme engineering, not doubt. But SpaceX isn't perfect and when people try to whitewash their screwups by dunking on Apollo project that really pisses me off. Apollo was an engineering miracle for its time.
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Lorenzo Stoakes
ljsLike being in the 21st century or something! ;)
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If people can maintain this stuff, they can do it outside of mainline and make whatever compromises they want.
I think it's just absolutely unfair for core kernel devs to be expected to do the work.
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Lorenzo Stoakes
ljs
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However at LPC Ted was literally in the rust sessions and advocating for them and supportive, as are the top guys in the kernel so, any perception that rust is 'hated' in the kernel is fucking bullshit.
That some maintainers are still resistant, yes, that there are concerns, yes, but hate? Absolutely not.
I am a supporter of the efforts myself because I like the fact that a compiler helps you be less of a fucking idiot, I will take all the help I can get.
I realise it's not perfect and probably has a ton of issues (like literally all programming languages) and won't solve everything and it's incremental and maybe never will be part of the core of the kernel, but that's because _this is real programming_ and that's what reality looks like :)
Incremental, my dear Watson.
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Lorenzo Stoakes
ljsNOBODY can moan that I'm not trying to help rust in the linux kernel now :)*
* It's the internet, so obviously, people will anyway
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josef
jk@mastodon.socialafter 15 years as a linux user, i can heartily recommend using the linux kernel. dont use a distribution. dont even make your own - because thats a distribution too, obviously. absolutely don't use pacman, or apt, don't use ANY package managers. you don't want to use sysvinit, but don't use systemd instead because that's even worse. don't use a shell - theyre bad. you should completely avoid any userland programs. don't use any hardware either, because it might not be compatible with linux
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