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Director of Linux Foundation IT. Currently in charge of kernel.org infra.

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K. Ryabitsev 🍁

Enjoying a talk by @krzk about b4. :)
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@foo @luis_in_brief @mattl I don't disagree with you, but I do have a good logical answer to why it's this way -- LKML is about code review, not just code submission, and reviewing code in attachments is not straightforward.
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Big sites want more complex passwords & for each log-in want a texted code & and they give ID tests. Jumping through hoops. But every year or two they're like, "Someone broke into our server and got everyone's name and SSN and activities." So f*ck the hoops? Grrr.

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K. Ryabitsev 🍁

YUL ✈️ LGA ✈️ RIC
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5 women on a panel will only ever be asked to talk about being women.

5 men on a panel will be asked about everything from game of thrones to the future of humanity.

And that’s the damn truth.

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Well, TIL that b4 shazam has some other handy flags like -H and I can use that instead of make a branch, apply, merge, drop in cover letter.

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@jetton "falΕΏe and ΕΏenΕΏeleΕΏs Way of ΕΏpeaking" is my new favourite thing.
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Whenever you read a negative story about renewable energy, electric vehicles or heat pumps in the media ask yourself:

Could it be that vested interest groups funded and placed the story?

Rarely exposed but this stuff goes on all the time.

https://www.desmog.com/2023/07/20/revealed-media-blitz-against-heat-pumps-funded-by-gas-lobby-group/

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K. Ryabitsev 🍁

Finally, my dream of modeling Gucci bags is coming true. Look out for hot new content right underneath the current releases table.
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@jbowen @kees @jmorris Yes, though for the moment they discourage it until the underlying protocol is mature and stops rapidly evolving in backwards-incompatible ways. See https://atproto.com/ for details.
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@jbowen @kees @jmorris but it's not centralized -- atproto is designed to be federated and actively addresses some of the builtin faults of activitypub (such as being able to move your full history over when moving servers, being dramatically less chatty, etc).
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@kees @jmorris I wouldn't discount bsky yet -- it's a more promising protocol than activitypub. I expect that, at some point, there will be bridging between the two.
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@corbet To highlight the main point I'm trying to make, the problem isn't that linux-kernel receives a lot of mail. It's that it has 3,000 subscribers, which translates into about 3 million individual messages daily on average. This is high enough volume that many email providers start throttling us back.
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@kernellogger @corbet Yes, if you use get_maintainer.pl (which is how you're supposed to do it), linux-kernel will *always* be included.
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@arstechnica "As for the EV element, it was something of a relief to see that the electrification of the vehicles didn't seem to make a difference in the safety of the accident. But even though the high-voltage system automatically disconnected, I'm sure Mercedes-Benz will forgive me if I'm hesitant to approach a wrecked EV."

Translation: "I was shown all evidence that EVs are no more dangerous than ICE vehicles, but writing that would generate fewer clicks, so I will throw in some words about my irrelevant monkeybrain feels."

Disappointing to see Ars doing this, but I guess this is what we get for relying on ad-driven media.
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K. Ryabitsev 🍁

RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org

In which I brazenly suggest that we should stop sending all patches to the LKML and send them to a different list with moderated subscription.

https://lore.kernel.org/ksummit/20231106-venomous-raccoon-of-wealth-acc57c@nitro/
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@mupuf @ljs @liskin my usual concern with running a forge is that suddenly there's a single target that someone can attack and stop all kernel development. Imagine you have a 0-day that lets you own billions of devices worldwide. Just knocking out forge.kernel.org prevent it from being fixed. Yes, we can fall back to coordinating everything via mail when this happens, but that means we haven't really fixed the underlying problem.
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@liskin @mupuf @ljs b4 will try to guess where the series belongs. And if the series was sent with b4 itself, it would also have a base-commit, which will tell you exactly where in the tree that belongs, too.

Also, if you try b4, you won't really have to configure your email server, as we also support submitting a patch series via a relay service.

There's still lots of work left to do, but we *are* listening.
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K. Ryabitsev 🍁

Edited 1 year ago
According to my back-of-napkin calculations (looking at the number of archived messages in the past month, averaging it per day, and multiplying by number of subscribers):

- vger.kernel.org delivers about 4.5 million messages per day
- 70% of that is linux-kernel@vger, with about 3.2 million messages delivered per day
- a very remote second is netdev@vger (300,000 messages delivered per day)
- even a more remote third is kvm@vger (133,000 messages delivered per day)

Current migration stats:

Out of the total of 203 public vger lists:

- 48 lists will be sunset (due to obsolescence/inactivity)
- 40 lists are already migrated to new infra
- 115 still reside on legacy infra

The 40 migrated lists are about 788,000 messages daily, or ~20% of all traffic, so 80% of all mail traffic is still going through the legacy infra.

I hope to complete all migrations by this holiday season.
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